Happy End of Democracy Day
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False. You yourself said that women shouldn’t be made to compete with men because of physiology. If they can’t compete and you change the rules of the game for them to be able to play themselves…. that is literally lowering the bar.
Show me 10 women in the entire NCAA who can dunk a basketball. I can show you men on a single team who can.
What I’m saying though is more complex…. Lowering the bar isn’t always a bad thing. Especially back when very few women were able to go to college…. Sometimes lowering the bar just means more people have an opportunity to achieve to the greatest level they can. Setting the bar to incentivize people to put in maximum effort is better than making a whole bunch of people sit on the sideline because they can’t clear your stupid bar.
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The NBA and FIFA do… they subsidize the WNBA and the Women’s World Cup. Same goes for the Olympics.
Sounds like you need to write a sternly worded letter to the NCAA and Rodger Goodell that we need a lower tier Football product where women (or unathletic males) could actually compete. You can title it DEI in football.
The NFL absolutely has had one of the longest standing DEI policies in place. It's called the Rooney Rule. Why did this rule need to be enacted? Because over 53% of the players in the NFL are African American and like 10% of the head coaches. The rule ensures black coaches are given an opportunity to at least interview and be heard. So guys like Lovie Smith, Tony Dungy and Mike Tomlin are all DEI hires and have great records of success. I don't know if you remember, but back in the 80s you could count on 1 finger the number of black starting QBs in the NFL. Now the percentage is more reflective of the league and it has also changed the game for the better.
In the NBA Gregg Popovich hired Becky Hammon as an assistant coach on his staff in San Antonio. Why? Because anyone who knew her and her knowledge of the game knows she is one of the brightest basketball minds on the planet. It's stupid she hasn't gotten a HC gig in the NBA when you see teams recycling guys like Doc Rivers who I am convinced couldn't coach himself out of a paper bag even with a great collection of players (even as a Celtics fan, I am more and more convinced he got lucky with the 1 title in Boston). NFL teams are hiring women coaches and analysts understanding they have valuable contributions.
The fact you instantly think a black person or women is hired over a white man is because of DEI is ludicrous and tells us more about the hate you harbor than anything else. I can assure you as someone who reviews job applications and resumes to find instructors for community college classes, nothing that identifies the individual as male/female, Black/white/Asian etc. comes through on the applications I see. Sure there are some signs and you can guess anything about the person but for what I do, if the person does not have some specific skills I'm looking for, I am on to the next person. I have never felt the push or need to hire anyone due to race, ethnicity, gender, pronouns, etc.
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Yah, that’s because collective bargaining tends to help eradicate predjudice in the workplace.
Right to work made it easier for employers to discriminate.
Are you making an analogy that asserts that black coaches are inherently less talented than white coaches?
He was asserting that teams that take black QBs take a less talented player.
JP Morgan, Microsoft, and Costco are pretty good competitors in their fields and continue to be committed to their DEI programs. 98% of Costco shareholders just voted in favor of management's continuing to do so. Since then AG's from 19 states (OK, TX, GA...the usuals) have written Costco, a private sector company, demanding that it give up its DEI program.
What this tells me that is no one knows what DEI is anymore and it's just become a knee jerk cultural divide issue. People see DEI and regardless of how it's implemented or what it consists of, or its results are,....it's WOKE, it's liberal, it needs to be killed. Smart companies know that just hiring white guys with degrees is not a successful employment strategy When I talk to my conservative, anti-DEI friends about their views, they claim that DEI operates and has a set of goals which make no sense. This country has not been well served by inflaming divisions between people based on concepts that people can't even define. Marxism, communism, socialism all get thrown around by people who can't define them other than they think it's bad and hurtful. DEI is just the latest.
The US owes a lot to a college drop out (Bill Gartes) and the son of Syrian immigrant with no college degrees (Steve Jobs) who lacked the degrees and background needed to succeed in Trump's anti-DEI world.
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Trumps DEI in action. Darren Beattie has been appointed acting undersecretary of state for public diplomacy, a senior State Department official confirmed. Beattie, who will manage the department’s messaging and relationship with foreign populations, has a history of incendiary comments, including an October 2024 tweet in which he wrote: “Competent white men must be in charge if you want things to work. Unfortunately, our entire national ideology is predicated on coddling the feelings of women and minorities, and demoralizing competent white men.”
What this tells me that is no one knows what DEI is anymore and it's just become a knee jerk cultural divide issue. People see DEI and regardless of how it's implemented or what it consists of, or its results are,....it's WOKE, it's liberal, it needs to be killed. Smart companies know that just hiring white guys with degrees is not a successful employment strategy When I talk to my conservative, anti-DEI friends about their views, they claim that DEI operates and has a set of goals which make no sense. This country has not been well served by inflaming divisions between people based on concepts that people can't even define. Marxism, communism, socialism all get thrown around by people who can't define them other than they think it's bad and hurtful. DEI is just the latest.
The US owes a lot to a college drop out (Bill Gartes) and the son of Syrian immigrant with no college degrees (Steve Jobs) who lacked the degrees and background needed to succeed in Trump's anti-DEI world.
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Trumps DEI in action. Darren Beattie has been appointed acting undersecretary of state for public diplomacy, a senior State Department official confirmed. Beattie, who will manage the department’s messaging and relationship with foreign populations, has a history of incendiary comments, including an October 2024 tweet in which he wrote: “Competent white men must be in charge if you want things to work. Unfortunately, our entire national ideology is predicated on coddling the feelings of women and minorities, and demoralizing competent white men.”
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Those AGs screaming about it are just wasting tax payer money. Unless they have proof that Costoc is hiring based on race or gender, it's not going anywhere. Plus, it's a private company and can set any hiring qualifications it wants. The NFL won a similar suit against Maurice Clarett when Clarett challenged the NFLs rule that a player had to be at least 3 years post high school to be eligible for the draft.
And Costco's recent stock price surge and the fact that it has seen a pretty dramatic membership growth since their announcement of keeping their DEI program indicate that the public agrees. All the while Wal Mart and Target announced they were discontinuing their DEI policies have seen their stock values drop and Target's revenue is down. Consumers know what's best way more than the government does...it's interesting how limited government and limited government regulation on business used to be a hallmark of the Republican party and they keep coming up with more and more ways to control everything.
