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You can't contract the virus just by touching the same door knob as a carrier. It takes many steps before and beyond that point. Ebola is scary because of its mortality rate, but thankfully it's pretty difficult to transmit.Originally posted by rabidTU:
According to the medical officials there is little chance of contracting the disease, but reports have said that a person can be infected by touching a door knob 30 minutes after the carrier of the disease did. If that can occur, what about using a public restroom or dressing room? Are public restrooms really clean? What if you step in some germ infested vomit and later change shoes? There seem to be a variety of ways to contract that awful disease.
I'm certainly no doctor like yourself, but that is what was reported on the radio - I believe last Friday. But anytime something like this occurs, there is a lot of "fear reporting" and conjecture, I'm sure. But if there was no chance of contamination by touching feces, vomit and other body fluids, why do they go to so much trouble disinfecting the area? Could that be an attempt to sooth peoples fears even if it isn't needed?Originally posted by voetvoet:
You can't contract the virus just by touching the same door knob as a carrier. It takes many steps before and beyond that point. Ebola is scary because of its mortality rate, but thankfully it's pretty difficult to transmit.Originally posted by rabidTU:
According to the medical officials there is little chance of contracting the disease, but reports have said that a person can be infected by touching a door knob 30 minutes after the carrier of the disease did. If that can occur, what about using a public restroom or dressing room? Are public restrooms really clean? What if you step in some germ infested vomit and later change shoes? There seem to be a variety of ways to contract that awful disease.
Because if you somehow internalize those bodily fluids, then there's still a risk of infection. And for a virus that kills ~50% of those who contract it, you can't risk even one more person getting infected.Originally posted by rabidTU:
But if there was no chance of contamination by touching feces, vomit and other body fluids, why do they go to so much trouble disinfecting the area? Could that be an attempt to sooth peoples fears even if it isn't needed?
OK, dumb question. Wouldn't you internalize those fluids if you touch them with your hand and then put that hand to your mouth? If those body fluids are all over the place, the bedroom of a victim for instance, isn't there a good chance that might occur at some point? Isn't there a short "shelf life" for the bacteria after it hits the air? 30 minutes maybe?Originally posted by voetvoet:
Because if you somehow internalize those bodily fluids, then there's still a risk of infection. And for a virus that kills ~50% of those who contract it, you can't risk even one more person getting infected.Originally posted by rabidTU:
But if there was no chance of contamination by touching feces, vomit and other body fluids, why do they go to so much trouble disinfecting the area? Could that be an attempt to sooth peoples fears even if it isn't needed?
Thanks Old Goat. That clears up a lot. The "hot" term is a pretty good one imo. So my interpretation of this is that if the conditions are right, a person doesn't have to have "absolute" direct contact with a victim. That is scary, but also allows us to see the disease for what it really is and allow us a chance to beware of those "conditions" to protect the lives of our loved ones. Thats all we ask of our govt too. But they evidently have another agenda working here - the midterms maybe?Originally posted by old_goat_23:
Unfortunately, the door knob scenario is entirely plausible as is the hand shake scenario and several others. Not sure where VV is getting information but mine comes from military doctors who are ramping up to deal with this issue as well as the CDC. An additional concern is that nobody has determined how health care workers (who are taking standard biohazard precautions) are becoming infected. Lots of theories (including a more robust form of the Ebola virus) but no real understanding at this time.
Transmission requires fluids (blood, stomach contents, whatever) that are "hot" (contain the pathogen) coming into contact with mucous membranes or broken skin. So:
1. Carrier managed to get hot bodily fluid on their hand
2. Carrier touches object
3. Victim has open cut on hand
4. Victim touches object
5. Hot fluid gets into cut
You can also run that scenario for a "touch the contaminated object then touch your eye" transmission and a host of others.
Ebola can survive in fluids at room temperature for several days and on dry surfaces at room temperature for several hours.
Ebola tends to die when exposed to sunlight, UV or EM radiation.
You can go to the CDC site and review the information for more details.
http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/transmission/index.html
Additional information on transmission and how long the virus can survive outside the body can be found here:
http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/transmission/qas.html
Hand sanitizers have to be at least 50% alcohol to be effective against Ebola.
Thanks!