ATTN. Justin Moore: FIRE KONKOL!

[TUFan1981]

He’s gonna have to do it again ala football.

The worst thing that can happen to your fan base is for them to become apathetic and that’s exactly where TU is.

Sorry, but Konkol is the new “worst coach in Tulsa basketball history.” You’re off the hook John Phillips and/or Jim King or whoever you consider the worst because it’s Eric.

That’s all.

 

[libertychamp]

He’s gonna have to do it again ala football.

The worst thing that can happen to your fan base is for them to become apathetic and that’s exactly where TU is.

Sorry, but Konkol is the new “worst coach in Tulsa basketball history.” You’re off the hook John Phillips and/or Jim King or whoever you consider the worst because it’s Eric.

That’s all.

I’ve been saying this for a long time and we gave him an extension.

 

[astonmartin708]

There was a game today?

 

[libertychamp]

There was a game today?

😆

 

[TULSARISING]

There was a game today?

Well there was a group of guys that attend TU go out on a basketball court in Birmingham alabama , but don’t know if it was what you would call a game

 

[Chris Harmon]

There was a game today?

 

[TulsaAM]

There was a game today?

If it wasn't for the ESPN app push notifications I wouldn't have known. 40+ years of being a TU basketball fanatic and I don't care enough to know the schedule anymore. I feel sorry for the kids, they don't deserve this...

 

[Gmoney4WW]

I’ve been saying this for a long time and we gave him an extension.

You have less credibility than Aston.

 

[loca2874]

I’m ok with this.

 

[TulsaRulzOSUdrools]

When the 3 isn't working for ya, fire more 3s.

 

[t-townpod]

If it wasn't for the ESPN app push notifications I wouldn't have known. 40+ years of being a TU basketball fanatic and I don't care enough to know the schedule anymore. I feel sorry for the kids, they don't deserve this...

And this is really the problem. (60 years for me). Living the results of a bad previous AD.

 

[chito_and_leon]

I’ve been saying this for a long time and we gave him an extension.

Do we know that the extension increased the buyout? It doesn't have to. You could say "the term of this contract expires on May 1, 2029, provided that Employer may terminate at any time by paying an amount equal to one year base salary." In that case, it doesn't matter if the term runs through 2029, 2050 or 2090. I don't know how these contracts are structured but the extension does not necessarily require an increase in buyout. I find it hard to believe that we extended the buyout with the results we've had.

 

[Babe the Blue Ox]

He’ll be on a winning streak by Saturday. That and the recent extension will be enough to keep him around until next year.

 

[loca2874]

He’ll be on a winning streak by Saturday. That and the recent extension will be enough to keep him around until next year.

I like streaks except in my shorts. Bring on the streaks

 

[Gmoney4WW]

I like streaks except in my shorts. Bring on the streaks

Bad news: short streak_ in basketball & long streaks in your underwear.

123 MORE DAMMIT!

 

[chito_and_leon]

He’ll be on a winning streak by Saturday. That and the recent extension will be enough to keep him around until next year.

Gonna be interesting. Konkol seems to be settling in to about middle of the pack in the AAC. If he was a trainwreck again like year 1, he'd probably be gone. But how long can he stay if he's middle of the pack but clearly not going to get us where we want to get? Wojick got like 5 years in purgatory.....

 

[drboobay]

Gonna be interesting. Konkol seems to be settling in to about middle of the pack in the AAC. If he was a trainwreck again like year 1, he'd probably be gone. But how long can he stay if he's middle of the pack but clearly not going to get us where we want to get? Wojick got like 5 years in purgatory.....

You are a real optimist. We will see how it turns out.

 

[chito_and_leon]

You are a real optimist. We will see how it turns out.

I don't know, is saying he'll get to middle of the pack optimistic? Guess it depends on the question. It probably gets us another year with him, some might say that's pessimistic! He finished 8th last year and the conference is terrible this year, I bet we end up in the 7 - 9 range again, probably a place we should consider buying a home and settling in, at least for as long as we have Konkol.

 

[drboobay]

I don't know, is saying he'll get to middle of the pack optimistic? Guess it depends on the question. It probably gets us another year with him, some might say that's pessimistic! He finished 8th last year and the conference is terrible this year, I bet we end up in the 7 - 9 range again, probably a place we should consider buying a home and settling in, at least for as long as we have Konkol.

Yes middle is optimistic based on our metrics. But we do seem to be trending up and could attain mediocrity if it keeps up!

 

[chito_and_leon]

Yes middle is optimistic based on our metrics. But we do seem to be trending up and could attain mediocrity if it keeps up!

That's the spirit, love to see you really getting into our success!

 

[astonmartin708]

Gonna be interesting. Konkol seems to be settling in to about middle of the pack in the AAC. If he was a trainwreck again like year 1, he'd probably be gone. But how long can he stay if he's middle of the pack but clearly not going to get us where we want to get? Wojick got like 5 years in purgatory.....

Wojcik had 20 win seasons consistently for several years and made the NIT twice and won the CBI (meh). Konkol won’t sniff that.

Also his Strength of Schedule when tickling mediocrity’s balls from below has far and away been worse than the long lost beach boy.

 

[chito_and_leon]

Wojcik had 20 win seasons consistently for several years and made the NIT twice and won the CBI (meh). Konkol won’t sniff that.

Also his Strength of Schedule when tickling mediocrity’s balls from below has far and away been worse than the long lost beach boy.

Wojick was the worst case scenario. Too good to fire easily but not good enough to deliver the season we've all been waiting for. Certainly haven't seen anything yet to suggest that Konkol will get to Woj's level.

 

[drboobay]

That's the spirit, love to see you really getting into our success!

We have a nice mix of players when everyone is healthy.

 

[I.I.]

Wojcik and Haith were "mired in mediocrity".

 

[Gmoney4WW]

Wojcik and Haith were "mired in mediocrity".

I felt like an Oscar Mired Weiner we were in that for so long.

 

[dougheffking]

We have a nice mix of players when everyone is healthy.

Not really.

 

[Barlass]

Haith had extreme highs and extreme lows, Wojick was never competitive against top teir teams but beat who he was supposed to beat. They were mediocre in their own unique ways.

 

[Gmoney4WW]

We have a nice mix of players when everyone is healthy.

Ah, ah. You said something positive there, that's not allowed.

 

[chito_and_leon]

Ah, ah. You said something positive there, that's not allowed.

In his defense, it was pretty halfhearted.

 

[drboobay]

Haith had extreme highs and extreme lows, Wojick was never competitive against top teir teams but beat who he was supposed to beat. They were mediocre in their own unique ways.

Not exactly.

Wojcik almost beat a Calipari Memphis team at home one year. Maybe they were even #1?

 

[Weatherdemon]

Not exactly.

Wojcik almost beat a Calipari Memphis team at home one year. Maybe they were even #1?

Yep.
Terrible coaching by him Memphis’ final possession cost us that game.
Took them like 1.7 seconds to inbound from under their basket and get the winning bucket.

 

[Barlass]

Yep.
Terrible coaching by him Memphis’ final possession cost us that game.
Took them like 1.7 seconds to inbound from under their basket and get the winning bucket.

They weren't ranked #1 and we didn't win. Haith actually had several wins against ranked teams. I think we'll look back more positively on his tenure as time goes by.

 

[drboobay]

They weren't ranked #1 and we didn't win. Haith actually had several wins against ranked teams. I think we'll look back more positively on his tenure as time goes by.

Yes but his teams got worse over time.

Perhaps structural issues were a bigger part of it than we knew.

 

[TulsaRulzOSUdrools]

We are 2-2 in the conference. The American ain't great right now. We could easily finish this conference with a winning record. Wild to think about.

East Carolina, WSU, and South Florida are all winnable, and we go into Tulane on a solid footing to possibly win. Memphis is a loss. I would love to see some players pick up a couple of techs against Hagerty and just dirty the game up. Florida Atlantic is terrible.

The chips EASILY fall with us going on a 5-1 run right now. Wild. We have weird success in Phili. UTSA is nothing special.

I am just trying to be positive. Things can quickly turn about.

 

[dougheffking]

We are 2-2 in the conference. The American ain't great right now. We could easily finish this conference with a winning record. Wild to think about.

East Carolina, WSU, and South Florida are all winnable, and we go into Tulane on a solid footing to possibly win. Memphis is a loss. I would love to see some players pick up a couple of techs against Hagerty and just dirty the game up. Florida Atlantic is terrible.

The chips EASILY fall with us going on a 5-1 run right now. Wild. We have weird success in Phili. UTSA is nothing special.

I am just trying to be positive. Things can quickly turn about.

Who cares where we finish in the conference? Our stadium is empty, our net is lower than 300, and we have zero chance at the postseason.

Look at the big picture here. A total house cleaning is needed.

 

[Gmoney4WW]

We are 2-2 in the conference. The American ain't great right now. We could easily finish this conference with a winning record. Wild to think about.

East Carolina, WSU, and South Florida are all winnable, and we go into Tulane on a solid footing to possibly win. Memphis is a loss. I would love to see some players pick up a couple of techs against Hagerty and just dirty the game up. Florida Atlantic is terrible.

The chips EASILY fall with us going on a 5-1 run right now. Wild. We have weird success in Phili. UTSA is nothing special.

I am just trying to be positive. Things can quickly turn about.

Ah, ah, ah... No positive talk about basketball! He just can't help himself. It's an autonomic response out of him.

Seriously though. Let's play somebody like USF w/ dominant height and win before we start talking about runs. We just played two of the weakest teams in the league.

 

[astonmartin708]

They weren't ranked #1 and we didn't win. Haith actually had several wins against ranked teams. I think we'll look back more positively on his tenure as time goes by.

Nope. His tenure blew. He beat ranked teams (usually overestimated ranked teams) but choked non-conference games against the likes of Lamar (who no one cares about).

 

[I.I.]

OK this is what I remember about Wojcik and Haith for best wins and worst losses:

Wojcik: Best win Beat Bradley 70-64 in finals of CBI. $5 general admission tickets and place has never been louder since.
Worst loss: Lost to Memphis is the finals of Conference USA tournament 39-64. I drove all night to make the game.
Worst decision: Mentioned here: Leading Memphis 54-53 with 4 seconds to go. Wojcik calls TO (Not Calipari) and Antonio Anderson makes an uncontested layup at the buzzer for Memphis with leading shot blocker Jordan nowhere around. Jordan finished with 20 points and 13 rebounds and Uzoh 16 points and 8 rebounds. Yet even with this team.....no NCAA bid.

Haith: Best Win : @ SMU 2016 82-77 . This got us an undeserved bid to the NCAA.
Worst loss: SE Oklahoma State 66-69 in 2014.
Worst decision: Start the season in 2015 @ 4-0 and in finals of Virgin Island Tou against South Carolina. Haith starts a freshman by the name of Kajon Brown who had no previous minutes. He played 6 minutes....enough to have his man score on him 4 times and he had all zeros on the board. South Carolina led by 10 before he could get him out. Only played 10 more minutes the rest of the year and never scored.

 

[TulsaRulzOSUdrools]

So my idea got cooked and konkol's low rizz showed out. We done.

 

[texcane1982]

IMO, in today's world of NIL, you can't build a winning program going from 25 losses to go 15 losses and then bouncing back 15-20 losses. When it came to football, AD Moore made the bold move of triaging the damage quickly, after 2 years. I believe the same must be done for basketball. Hiring Konkol was always a risk, he was mediocre at LA Tech, their version of Wojcik (minus the demeanor) and to my knowledge was never considered a strong up and coming head coach.

Football may generate the revenue, but basketball is very important at TU. We are witnessing the worst 3-year run of TU basketball since the Jim King era of 1977-78 through 1979-80 (9-18, 14-13, 8-19). IMO it's time to move on from Konkol and find the equivalent Tre Lamb who is a proven program builder from schools with less resources than TU. Because of NIL, this cycle will only continue as TU losses their best players (i.e. - Haggerty) annually, thus never able to turn the corner. I find it hard to believe NIL is the only thing that matters to kids, I would like to think competing for Championships matters as well.

It will be interesting to see how our rivals at Wichita State react to consecutive losing season under Paul Mills, and a 2nd season that was worst than his 1st. Over the past 15 years Wichita State has clearly surpassed TU in terms of elevating the basketball programs. The past 5 years both programs are trending in the wrong direction. Over the past 45 years these 2-programs have mirrored each other in terms of success, alternating periods of success with few great seasons, some good seasons, many average seasons, a couple really bad seasons, a couple great hires, a couple good hires, a couple mediocre hires, and a couple bad hires.

TX