What the over under?

[04Watu]

Trump is preparing a list of pardons for last day in office? Should 100 be the over or under? Should read like a who's who in....seditious behavior, a Trump family album, Don's favorite cabinet members..?

I'm reminded of the movie the Godfather where the FBI sit outside the wedding and takes the names of those who show up to know who tied into the mob.

Trump to issue around 100 pardons and commutations Tuesday, sources say

President Donald Trump is preparing to issue around 100 pardons and commutations on his final full day in office Tuesday, according to three people familiar with the matter, a major batch of clemency actions that includes white collar criminals, high-profile rappers and others but -- as of now...

www.cnn.com

 

[04Watu]

The Art of the Deal?

Prospect of Pardons in Final Days Fuels Market to Buy Access to Trump (Published 2021)

The president’s allies have collected tens of thousands of dollars — and potentially much more — from people seeking pardons.

www.nytimes.com

 

[TU 1978]

It depends on how much money he can grift for each one.

 

[04Watu]

To be fair, the guys making the money are the 'insiders' who claim they have influence with Trump and charge five figures and up to for their 'access'.

 

[Gmoney4WW]

To be fair, the guys making the money are the 'insiders' who claim they have influence with Trump and charge five figures and up to for their 'access'.

I kind of think Trump's got some version of that well known line memorized.


"Someday-and that day may never come- I'll call upon you to do a service for me. But until that day, accept this justice as a gift.(trump will collect from them all)

 

[04Watu]

Birds of a feather...protect each other?

Trump supporter shocked over clemency of "crook" who stole his life savings in Ponzi scheme

Trump Supporter Shocked Over Clemency of 'Crook' Who Stole His Life Savings

A 71-year-old supporter of President Donald Trump reportedly said that he was forced to "wonder" about the honesty of the outgoing president after he recently commuted the decades-long prison sentence of a man who stole his life savings in a Ponzi scheme.

flip.it

 

[04Watu]

Evidently the "over" wins. Trump added about 140+ pardons and commutations on his final day. Although the pardons were not run through the DOJ as usual, most seem well reasonable. The pardons handed out before Christmas less so.

Donald Trump Pardons Steve Bannon; ‘Tiger King’s Joe Exotic Not Among 143 Given Clemency Or Commuted Sentence In Administration’s Last Hours – Update

 

[lawpoke87]

Pretty low numbered historically speaking.

 

[aTUfan]

I believe Clinton passed out some party favors. And no need to pardon hrc; she was able to skate on several issues.

 

[TU_BLA]

Evidently the "over" wins. Trump added about 140+ pardons and commutations on his final day. Although the pardons were not run through the DOJ as usual, most seem well reasonable. The pardons handed out before Christmas less so.

Donald Trump Pardons Steve Bannon; ‘Tiger King’s Joe Exotic Not Among 143 Given Clemency Or Commuted Sentence In Administration’s Last Hours – Update

Apparently Bannon's acceptance of said pardon might cause him some trouble in some states and charges that could be run through them.

Trump was said to be distraught at what a pardon meant legally...as in it's an admission of guilt and he didn't want to do that to himself and his kids...so now they'll have to wriggle their way out of legal trouble the old fashioned way...by paying a schuyster lawyer to keep it tied up in court until no one wants to deal with it any longer.

Note: I don't think any of the many lawyers on this board fall into this category...but Trump's lawyers have a long standing documented history of doing things like this and strong arming creditors into accepting much less than what they're due

 

[cmullinsTU]

Pretty low numbered historically speaking.

This.

Trump did a lot of things I disagree with, but abuse of the ability to provide pardons is not one of them. Only HW Bush and W Bush gave out fewer pardons during their term than Trump in the past 100+ years.

 

[Gmoney4WW]

This.

Trump did a lot of things I disagree with, but abuse of the ability to provide pardons is not one of them. Only HW Bush and W Bush gave out fewer pardons during their term than Trump in the past 100+ years.

My only problem was the people pardoned that committed crimes in his name.

 

[URedskin54]

Not a lot of pardons, but a lot of them are pretty swampy for a guy who campaigned on draining the swamp

 

[astonmartin708]

My only problem was the people pardoned that committed crimes in his name.

I'm curious how many of Obama's were to white collar criminals who swindled folks out of lots money. I remember quite a few of his being non violent drug convictions. (A large number of Trump's yesterday were too) but I'm not that intrigued to go look.

 

[astonmartin708]

Not a lot of pardons, but a lot of them are pretty swampy for a guy who campaigned on draining the swamp

He drained the swamp so he could add some dead things at the bottom and refill it.