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US sets new record

In number of mass shootings in a year: 38 There is still time for more.
Students exposed to risks of school shootings: 389 since 1999.

What has US done to control access to firearms, esp AR-15s? About zip... with not change in sight.
So 203 people have died this year in the U.S. in mass shootings while over 600 have been murdered in Chicago alone this year. 35,000 have been killed by guns in the U.S. thus far in 2023. Yet you’re focusing on the 203? Makes sense 🤷‍♂️. I’m ready to talk about gun violence and those places where it’s rampant. Also reason to talk about way to reduce said violence in those areas.
 
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It's not just guns. Traffic deaths as well. Unlike, Canada, Australia and most European countries, vehicle deaths in the US are rising. If the U.S. had made as much progress reducing vehicle crashes as other high-income countries had over the past two decades, about 25,000 fewer Americans would die every year. The reasons are pretty clear. 1. Drug use. Half of all fatal accidents involve at least one drug. 2. Cellphone usage while driving. 3. Lack of side walks, bike lanes, and crossing markers.

Not expensive to fix. But the U.S. has chosen to accept a vehicle death rate that is almost three times higher than that of Canada, Australia or France, more than four times higher than that of Germany or Japan and more than five times higher than that of Scandinavia, Switzerland or Britain.
 
Houston shooting. Neighbors did all they could months before the shooting. US gun laws protect the shooters not the victims. Insanity. And 40 years ago it would never have happened.

 
Houston shooting. Neighbors did all they could months before the shooting. US gun laws protect the shooters not the victims. Insanity. And 40 years ago it would never have happened.

Hate crime. Not surprised Yahoo isn’t reporting the motive

 
Since “hate” motive has been deemed as an aggregating factor when it comes to murder convictions as it relates to sentencing….yes, our current judicial system views it as worse.
When the ultimate penalty is the death penalty either way, it really doesn’t matter to the criminal. All capital offenses are equal to capital criminals. Ultimately, it’s just an extra symbolic wag of the finger in Texas.
 
When the ultimate penalty is the death penalty either way, it really doesn’t matter to the criminal. All capital offenses are equal to capital criminals. Ultimately, it’s just an extra symbolic wag of the finger in Texas.
My comment wasn’t restricted to Texas but across the country…state and federal. Very few murderers receive the death penalty. “Hate” is considered an aggravating factor which often leads to an increased sentence. Again…the answer to your question is yes. Our current judicial system is set up to recognize a murder where “hate is a factor to be worse
 
The sadest element is that these shootings are now an acceptable part of life in America. The momentary outrage passes quickly if it arises at all. 40 or 50 years ago Americans had a very different view of gun ownership and the response would have been more like Australia's. Today, however, mass shootings and firearms deaths are just another statistic.
 
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Mass shootings thankfully will never happen in Xinjiang due to the leadership of glorious leader Xi maintaining good order in that province
 
Mass shootings make up such a small portion of overall gun related crimes. We generally don’t care about the gun violence because
of where these shootings occur. This hasn’t changed in over 50 years and I sadly don’t see it changing anytime soon. Easier to ignore the problem.
 
When the ultimate penalty is the death penalty either way, it really doesn’t matter to the criminal. All capital offenses are equal to capital criminals. Ultimately, it’s just an extra symbolic wag of the finger in Texas.
when was the last time a mass murderer or serial killer was tried, convicted, and executed?
 
when was the last time a mass murderer or serial killer was tried, convicted, and executed?
Why didn't you just say when was the last time one was executed. If they aren't tried, and convicted then they wouldn't be executed. August, 2019.
 
Combine unlimited guns with poverty, and the results are predictable: more gun deaths.

On the poverty front, the U.S. unsurprisingly ranks second only to Costa Rica in having the highest poverty rate of the 38 mostly developed democratic countries included in the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development list.

By pretty much every measure, the U.S. lags far behind other countries on the list. Fewer people in the U.S. have health insurance; support for people with disabilities is much poorer; and support for unemployment is lower. For those trying to raise children in the U.S.: good luck. The U.S. is the only country on the list without guaranteed paid leave for new parents. Denmark, meanwhile, offers 52 weeks of parental leave to be shared by parents after birth or adoption.
 
Under glorious communism no one is impoverished in Xinjiang
 
Very difficult to solve rampant gun violence when we refuse to address the societal issues which lead to the same.
 
Why didn't you just say when was the last time one was executed. If they aren't tried, and convicted then they wouldn't be executed. August, 2019.
To be fair, I do know one where tried and convicted hadn't happened yet but the execution sure did....on live TV by the son's dad.
 
Despite the recent shootings at the Chief's KC victory parade, both Kansas and Missouri push for ever looser guns restrictions. Next up: unrestricted , unlicensed concealed weapons on public transportation. Meanwhile shooting deaths up in KC year after year.

 
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Despite the recent shootings at the Chief's KC victory parade, both Kansas and Missouri push for ever looser guns restrictions. Next up: unrestricted , unlicensed concealed weapons public transportation. Meanwhile shooting deaths up in KC year after year.

Not a single gun used in the parade shooting was purchased or was being carried legally. Current gun restrictions prohibited both. You’re again ignoring the societal issues which lead to teenagers packing backpacks with automatic weapons, taking them to a parade, and then firing them indiscriminately into a crowd of people. These are kids carrying around automatic weapons in backpacks to parades like they were snacks.
 
Societal issues leading to kids packing backpacks with automatic weapons? Passing laws allowing kids to buy, own, and carry concealed automatic weapons? Making it illegal would be a start. See my 2/13 post. Laws protect the shooter, not the victims.
 
Under glorious communism no one is impoverished in Xinjiang
And the 36 other countries ahead of us? England, France, Denmark, Canada, Mexico, Norway, Sweden, Japan, etc. etc. We beat out Costa Rico and that's it.
 
Societal issues leading to kids packing backpacks with automatic weapons? Passing laws allowing kids to buy, own, and carry concealed automatic weapons? Making it illegal would be a start. See my 2/13 post. Laws protect the shooter, not the victims.
Not a single kid involved in the KC shooting acquired or was carrying those guns legally. How many of the bad guys in Chicago purchased and are carrying their guns in that city legally? I’ll help you out….close to zero. If laws were the answer to the gun crisis in our cities then Chicago would be one of the safest places in America. You think kids who pack up illegally acquired and carried automatic weapons to a parade in a backpack with the intent to kill a rival give a damn about the laws we pass? Societal issues my friend. Solve our problems with violence and the utter disregard for human life.
 
And the 36 other countries ahead of us? England, France, Denmark, Canada, Mexico, Norway, Sweden, Japan, etc. etc. We beat out Costa Rico and that's it.

I didn’t realize all those countries were ahead of China
 
My comment wasn’t restricted to Texas but across the country…state and federal. Very few murderers receive the death penalty. “Hate” is considered an aggravating factor which often leads to an increased sentence. Again…the answer to your question is yes. Our current judicial system is set up to recognize a murder where “hate is a factor to be worse
It’s hair splitting but some federal hate crime statutes include the racial animus alleged as an essential element of the crime directly in the statute. Like the death penalty for interfering in the free exercise of religion that results in death. A good example is 18 U.S.C. §249, which includes life in prison as an option for aggravated battery. Other federal statutes allow the federal sentencing guidelines to include hate as an aggravating factor in the penalty phase. For instance, let’s say the worst type of human being I can imagine decides to shoot with the intent to kill two black men on a street corner. He films it and makes it clear to his viewers he is committing this crime solely due to their race. One victim is a member of the uniformed division of the U.S. Capitol Police. The other is delivery man asking for directions. He hits both of them but neither is killed. Prosecutors would likely elect to charge Count 1 regarding the civilian victim as a 249 crime requiring proof beyond a reasonable doubt the victim was a member of a protected class (Black) and the crime was committed with the intent to deprive the victim of his civil rights. That’s punishable by up to life (PBL). The prosecutors could choose to charge the shooting of the cop either as a 249 or use the agg batt on a LEO statute, which has fewer elements and you wouldn’t have to prove he did it to deprive him of his civil rights — only that the cop was acting within the scope of his employment and not walking home. BUT, if convicted, evidence of the racial animus could be used to aggravate the penalty upwards, but would be beneath the upward range of PBL that you get with a 249. And that’s the rub, it’s not always clear BARD that acts are done with the requisite criminal intent to violate civil rights or with racial animus, etc. So a lot of crimes that are obviously hate crimes to you and me are not charged that way because it’s difficult to prove BARD what the state of mind of the defendant was. And therefore the racial animus evidence comes in at sentencing as part of a battery trial rather than an element in a civil rights trial that involves a battery. It makes accurate statistics on hate crimes in America very difficult to track.

Hope this helps.
 
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Societal issues leading to kids packing backpacks with automatic weapons? Passing laws allowing kids to buy, own, and carry concealed automatic weapons? Making it illegal would be a start. See my 2/13 post. Laws protect the shooter, not the victims.
Civilian ownership and use of automatic weapons without authorization has been illegal since the 1930’s when the federal government struggled to respond to rampant gun violence. Violence that has continued for 100 years uninterrupted.

The manufacture and sale of new machine guns to civilian persons holding a Class III license has been illegal since 1986.

The problems are: 1) systemic violence by professional and paraprofessional criminals. 2) the availability of 3D printers and instructions on the internet to teenagers on how to convert hunting rifles into automatic weapons, 3) the ability of the cartels to smuggle weapons bought or stolen in the U.S. then modified in Mexico, then smuggled back to the USA for sale, 4) the unwillingness of the U.S. legal system to lock people up when it’s clear they are experiencing a systemic mental health challenges with a long history of violence and/or anti-social behavior but aren’t immediately presenting crisis level dangers to themselves or others but it’s clear to any rational man on Main Street that they have no business possessing weapons. Red flag laws are insane, pun intended. Lock the people up, not their guns, if you have the evidence. Don’t conclude as a matter of law that a person is too dangerous to own a gun, take the gun, then turn them loose on society to do good knows what.
 
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Not sure those problems are the ones driving events like the school and mall shootings like this: The 3rd one in Indiannapolis in three weeks.
Again….societal issues. Kids bringing guns to a mall and killing each other. Assuming gang related although story doesn’t say. These stories also never say how the minors acquired the guns. Where the hell are the parents? You’re telling me you don’t know your 15 year old son is packing a gun ?
 
Again….societal issues. Kids bringing guns to a mall and killing each other. Assuming gang related although story doesn’t say. These stories also never say how the minors acquired the guns. Where the hell are the parents? You’re telling me you don’t know your 15 year old son is packing a gun ?
In many cases, the parent(s) are current or former gang members or live in fear in gang dominated neighborhoods so they feel powerless to prevent their children from joining.

And no, if you are serving life in prison, you probably don’t know that your 15 year old has a gun. And if you shuttle between “homes” looking for food and a place to sleep because your mother is addicted to drugs and has been absent for a week, no she doesn’t know her 14 year old daughter bought a pistol from a young gang member to protect herself.

Systemic violence has multiple causes and is now multi-generational.
 
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In many cases, the parent(s) are current or former gang members or live in fear in gang dominated neighborhoods so they feel powerless to prevent their children from joining.

And no, if you are serving life in prison, you probably don’t know that your 15 year old has a gun. And if you shuttle between “homes” looking for food and a place to sleep because your mother is addicted to drugs and has been absent for a week, no she doesn’t know her 14 year old daughter bought a pistol to protect herself.

Systemic violence has multiple causes and is now multi-generational.
In most of the neighborhoods that Lawpoke is likely referencing, these things you talk about are the rule, not the exception.
 
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Three kids shot in KC in the last 8 days. 2 are deceased while the third is in critical conditions. The alarming thing is these were all separate incidents. Imagine being a parent in these areas.

 
Hearing at least one child was among the 12 people shot in this incident. Not sure I understand randomly shooting hundreds of shots into a crowd of people?

 
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