Tulsa +14.5
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I hope we do but this will almost be like a home game for OSU with the fans. I also saw what Nash did to our defense last night and Sanders is a better dual threat. We’ll have to get some turnovers and we’ll have a shot. Might be tough if our top 2 RB’s are out.
I would be pleasantly surprised with a 2 TD loss. Their offense scares me and our offense scares me
Well I think implicit in our offense scaring me is that it doesn’t take a particularly good defense to give our offense trouble. I have plenty of good things to say about last night but I have never been rewarded for unfounded optimism against OSU
The line is about right. Regardless of the talent on either side of the ball, TU has routinely struggled with in-state rivals. Until we can overcome that mindset, we’ll struggle regardless of the talent we have or they don’t have.
Unless we come out and play a mistake-free game and OSU plays a sloppy game, I see a 14-21 point loss.
Osu has a much better offense than MSU but a much much worse defense. I’m prepared for a fairly high scoring game
Really depends what type of offense we show. First half offense was same ole offense the past couple years. Then all of a sudden he started opening it up a little bit. I think the D struggled with Nash due to not preparing for the dual threat QB. They have all this week to prepare for that now. We will be the best Defense OSU has faced so cant really tell how good they really are yet in my opinion
we used to beat OSU regularly even during losing seasons.
Time to restart that tradition.
The series changed when OSU upgraded their facilities and were subsequently able to attract better athletes. OSU has won six straight all by double digits. I do think this is probably TU’s best chance for a victory since 2000. A freshman QB facing a legit defense on the road. Turnovers will be the key.
Proof is in the pudding that when you have an administration, donors, and university community that invests time, money, and effort into athletics, major change can happen.
At one point OSU wasn’t much ahead (if at all) of TU in regard to overall athletic program... look at what one huge donor was able to accomplish with the backing of the university.
Agree. I would add an Athletic Director who has raised over $1B in funds for facility upgrades for multiple athletic programs. Holder deserves a tremendous amount of credit for football, baseball, soccer, tennis, golf, etc...
The game last night could have been dramatically different if there isn’t a penalty on that 4th down call. What you call and what you do up or down one score is much different than up or down three.
OSU won’t pull any punches even if up by 35 in the fourth. This game is too important for recruiting and former players for the game to end up as a get together for another friendly like we saw up in Lansing.
Diamon Cannon had a really good game last night. Some issues to tidy up but generally excellent. He wouldn’t have the size and speed advantage he had last night. Neither will Powers who was exploited a few times. OSU will have their chances even if we play lights out.
We ran some power and threw in the intermediate passing game because San Jose matched up that way physically and were dropping 8 consistently with two deep safeties leaving the crossing and rub routes open. OSU will be bigger, faster, and will bring pressure. The same game plan won’t work again. It will be interesting to see if we go back to into the core of the Baylor offense to try and deal with that size and speed. When you have the right people, that offense can be effective at dealing with those issues.
Trouble is, Gundy’s faced this offense for ten years. This isn’t San Jose who has never seen it.
OSU won’t pull any punches even if up by 35 in the fourth. This game is too important for recruiting and former players for the game to end up as a get together for another friendly like we saw up in Lansing.
Diamon Cannon had a really good game last night. Some issues to tidy up but generally excellent. He wouldn’t have the size and speed advantage he had last night. Neither will Powers who was exploited a few times. OSU will have their chances even if we play lights out.
We ran some power and threw in the intermediate passing game because San Jose matched up that way physically and were dropping 8 consistently with two deep safeties leaving the crossing and rub routes open. OSU will be bigger, faster, and will bring pressure. The same game plan won’t work again. It will be interesting to see if we go back to into the core of the Baylor offense to try and deal with that size and speed. When you have the right people, that offense can be effective at dealing with those issues.
Trouble is, Gundy’s faced this offense for ten years. This isn’t San Jose who has never seen it.
Did I say that? Did I even infer that? Have I not said multiple times in the last two weeks that MSU’s defense is the best we will see for several years?
Three different opponents, three different defenses to plan for. Unlike the previous two, these opposing coaches have plenty of film on how to defeat our base offense and the athletes to do it.
I like our chances as much as I did when we won in 98, but I don’t think it’s a 1987, shootout and see what happens situation either.
Sorry. Disagree. Football was woefully under funded in the 70s and early 80s compared to the rest of the Big 8, but OSU had off and on success in a variety of sports, some at the national championship level, consistently for decades. Basketball, wrestling, baseball, golf, etc. I hate to say it, but they’ve done well when you consider their recruiting and funding challenges versus OU.
The only success we’ve had is pockets of basketball and three or four generational talents in women’s golf when women’s golf wasn’t funded anywhere else. A couple of exciting baseball seasons.
We’ve played them close with similar talent when kids didn’t leave the state for college. Lately, not so much. We’ve played 20 or so times in Stillwater and haven’t won over there since Truman was President.
They can win a trophy case full of championships in baseball, wrestling, basketball, golf, etc., but most fans don’t care about anything other than football. That’s the one prize that Pickens really wanted.
I don’t think the one from 1945 counts.
I think the Nash stats had a bunch to do with game situation AND the fact we didn’t gameplan for that. Sure we probably knew he would come in for some spot duty and to mix things up but we seemed ready for those. The uncertainty came when he took over after Love’s injury. We had already brought our 3rd string DL in (Baumann, Blankenship and one other) when he led that drive. I’m sure we’ll have a defensive gameplan that accounts for Sanders a bit more.
Fair enough. Sometimes I wonder what things would be like if TU has a Pickens style sugar daddy. What would be different?
I guess the question is who does the scoring. I would love to see us win but I would also be surprised.
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Can I hope that Montgomery has kept the O super simple the 1st two weeks - knowing that we had no shot against Michigan St. and could simply overpower SJ St. with base stuff? And now he is going to unleash Smith and have him throw it all over the yard? Lie to me if you need to.
We’d have forty world class rowers instead of one every ten years. Same with the track team. We wouldn’t have to worry about the refurb to the DonRey or the Case Center (both expenses that will be necessary before you know it), We’d go 10-3 more than once every twenty years. The rest would be pretty much the same. We are who we are. Money wouldn’t change that.
I was hoping for a full 40k seat stadium with a great game day atmosphere, regularly sold out Reynolds center with ncaa trips nearly every year... but you’re probably right.
I think a team has to be able to stop our run dead to really stop this offense. When we have a QB, if they can't completely stop our run, they shouldn't win as long as our defense plays well.
I'm not sure Ok. State has that type of run defense. Oregon State was certainly had some success in the run game.
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In 1945, the aggies beat only two teams with winning records. One of those two was Tulsa.
Seems like some folks might have been a bit busy with the occupying Japan and all....
I’m very interested for this weeks game. Oregon St’s strength last season was their run game, like us, and they were able to score. They weren’t able to stop OSU. Will we be able to? I think so, but I don’t think quite enough to win. I do think it’ll be competitive unlike the recent meetings between the two schools.
what the Emig and others who are surprised by the opening late don't yet know:
Hawaii 31 Oregon State 28 in Honolulu
Oregon State is only a bit better than SJSU.
I thought the line would be 15. But it actually opened around 4 PM CT yesterday at 13. It will move towards OSU until it peaks around 17 ? and then perhaps move slightly back.
For the first time in over a decade, I'm actually looking forward to this game.
Hawaii 31 Oregon State 28 in Honolulu
Oregon State is only a bit better than SJSU.
I thought the line would be 15. But it actually opened around 4 PM CT yesterday at 13. It will move towards OSU until it peaks around 17 ? and then perhaps move slightly back.
For the first time in over a decade, I'm actually looking forward to this game.
AMEN! Do you remember the sideline sleeper who scored a TD on the first play leading to a brawl on the field and a TU win?
