I just want the season to be over. I doubt we sink to 12 or 13.
Tulane Game Thread
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Memphis got a bargain for its purported $750,000 for Haggerty this year. Probably got them millions in tournament revenue.
With UTSA beating rice today we need a win or rice to lose to Wichita state on Thursday. That will keep us out of Denton. We have the same conference record as UTSA and we own the tie breaker over UTSA. This has us in the 11 spot.
We can get the 9 seed if we can beat temple and Wichita state as South Florida only has Memphis left.
We can get the 8 seed if we win against temple and Wichita state and temple loses to us and north Texas.
We lose 1 game or south Florida or Wichita state win a game and we will be in 10th.
We get the 11 seed if utsa wins more than we do out of the next 2 and rice loses to Wichita state
We can get the 9 seed if we can beat temple and Wichita state as South Florida only has Memphis left.
We can get the 8 seed if we win against temple and Wichita state and temple loses to us and north Texas.
We lose 1 game or south Florida or Wichita state win a game and we will be in 10th.
We get the 11 seed if utsa wins more than we do out of the next 2 and rice loses to Wichita state
I am frankly shocked how bad we are with our full complement of players.
Sadly, there's a non-trivial possibility that we end up tied with Rice for 11th/12th. We'd have to lose to Temple and @Wichita, which are both extremely doable, likely even. The big protection we have is that Rice would have to be Wichita. Since Rice has lost 13 of their last 15, that seems pretty unlikely. I assume if that all happened and we ended up tied, they'd get 11 because they swept us (think about that for a second, swept by Rice in MBB)?
If rice wins Thursday and we lose both of our games then we get the 11 seed and head to Denton. We win 1 game and we can go no further than 11
We have the 10 spot right now, don't we? We own the tie breaker over UTSA and have the same record.
Utsa is #11, Rice #12, and Charlote #13.
You're better at this than I am so don't know that I'd trust me... Looks like we're tied with UTSA now but they play Charlotte still, I assume they'll win that and end up with 6 wins. The only way we can end up #12 is if we lose both our games, in that case we'd end up with 5 wins. If that happens (likely) and UTSA beats Charlotte (likely) and Rice beats Wichita (unlikely), then UTSA is 10 and we're tied with Rice for 11/12.
Are you sure? I don't know what the tie breaker is, but imagine this...
We lost both games, so does UTSA, and Rice wins their game. Rice has the tie breaker over us. UTSA has the tie breaker over Rice. And we have the tie breaker over UTSA. And we all would finish with 5-13 records. Then it would be how we all finish with the top teams. I am assuming we'd lose that though. UTSA would probably get #10 for going 1-1 with N Texas, Rice would probably get #11 for beating E Carolina, and we would get #12 for beating nobody.
I don't know what the tiebreakers are. I found this on the interwebs
"If three or more (but not all) teams have the same best winning percentage in the
original mini-conference, then those tied teams create a new mini-conference and
follow this same procedure beginning of Step 1 (Multiple Team Tie)"
But all 3 teams would be 2-2. So that doesn't help.
Then:
Compare each team’s record vs. the team or group of tied teams occupying the highest
position in the standings. If an advantage is not determined, proceed to the next team or
group of tied teams in the standings for comparison. Continue down through the
standings until one or more teams gain an advantage. If two teams have the exact same
advantage (i.e., having the same and better record against a compared team relative to
their mini-conference), they are separated at that point by the two-way tiebreaker
procedure. The next step would take you back to Step 1 (e) (Multiple-Team Tie).
UTSA would get the top seed bc they beat UNT. Then Rice would get the next seed bc they beat ECU. And we'd get the bottom. Maybe???
