Trying to Schiff the Tide

[TUMe]

Perhaps sensing the ennui in the chamber on Day 2 of the trial, Schiff, the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, sought to keep the stakes high. He suggested at one point that military aid to Ukraine was essential so the U.S. would not have to fight Russians at home, as soldiers did in the videogame "Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2."

"As one witness put it during our impeachment inquiry, the United States aids Ukraine and her people so that we can fight Russia over there, and we don't have to fight Russia here," Schiff said, drawing rebukes from commentators across the political spectrum.

"Liberals used to mock Bush supporters when they used this jingoistic line during the war on Iraq," wrote journalist Max Blumenthal. "Now they deploy it to justify an imperialist proxy war against a nuclear power."

Schiff attracted the most criticism, however, for later making the head-turning argument that Trump must be removed from office by the Senate -- rather than by voters in the 2020 election -- because it is impossible to be sure the 2020 election won't be compromised.

"The president's misconduct cannot be decided at the ballot box, for we cannot be assured that the vote will be fairly won," Schiff remarked. He did not elaborate.

 

[aTUfan]

rather than by voters in the 2020 election -- because it is impossible to be sure the 2020 election won't be compromised.

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something the dems do well.
Well maybe not. They lost the election anyway.

 

[aTUfan]

In the 20s we had al Capone and the mafia.
Now we have Nancy, Adam, the dnc and the media.

 

[Gmoney4WW]

In the 20s we had al Capone and the mafia.
Now we have Nancy, Adam, the dnc and the media.

Don't leave out Trump, Giuliani, Manafort, Stone, etc.

 

[aTUfan]

Don't leave out Trump, Giuliani, Manafort, Stone, etc.

No they aren't as devious.


With Trump etal, what you see is what you get.

 

[Gmoney4WW]

No they aren't as devious.


With Trump etal, what you see is what you get.

You're kidding, Stone is as devious as they come.

 

[TUMe]

So why did they change "yes" on Carter Page being CIA to "No" go ahead and spy on him?

 

[Rippin]

In the 20s we had al Capone and the mafia.
Now we have Nancy, Adam, the dnc and the media.

They are terrified of what’s coming their way & what will be exposed to the media. These people have enlisted the help of everyone from the Mafia to MS-13 to (essentially rogue) C_i. a agents who operate completely autonomously & are trained to continue operations even if they are “terminated/fired” by the President himself (they don’t ever truly leave unless they choose to do so - see Kevin Schip (sic on purpose).

Just look at the name of the whistleblower (it’s already been reported that he works for the C_eye a). What are the first 3 letters of his last name? These people are not smart.

No worries.

“Corn ready for to be cut.”

The slow drip has prepared the democrat party / establishment (dirty) republicans for the storm that us coming.

President: “...calm before the storm.”
Journalist (intel asset/activist): “what storm, Mr. President?”
President: “You’ll see.”

Castle clean? Check.

17 weeks before the election? Good time for a mate.

 

[Rippin]

You're kidding, Stone is as devious as they come.

Because they are liars. As I’ve said before, these people are not smart.

 

[Rippin]

You're kidding, Stone is as devious as they come.

Yes. I agree, a 70 y/o+ man misremembering is quite dangerous to our Constitutional Republic. Surely he was up to no good. “Lying to the FBI” & not owning a firearm? That’s like 1,000 red flags going off at once in my head. So glad we were able to not just raid his house at 5am from the street but also with amphibious vehicles & armed with M4s!! I’m also glad we got to watch it live, such good journalistic work by CNN on that! If it were One America News Network or Fox News ir independent media then we would know for sure the FBI had leaked the information about that raid. Thankfully, it was CNN - the most trusted name in news!

 

[Rippin]

Perhaps sensing the ennui in the chamber on Day 2 of the trial, Schiff, the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, sought to keep the stakes high. He suggested at one point that military aid to Ukraine was essential so the U.S. would not have to fight Russians at home, as soldiers did in the videogame "Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2."

"As one witness put it during our impeachment inquiry, the United States aids Ukraine and her people so that we can fight Russia over there, and we don't have to fight Russia here," Schiff said, drawing rebukes from commentators across the political spectrum.

"Liberals used to mock Bush supporters when they used this jingoistic line during the war on Iraq," wrote journalist Max Blumenthal. "Now they deploy it to justify an imperialist proxy war against a nuclear power."

Schiff attracted the most criticism, however, for later making the head-turning argument that Trump must be removed from office by the Senate -- rather than by voters in the 2020 election -- because it is impossible to be sure the 2020 election won't be compromised.

"The president's misconduct cannot be decided at the ballot box, for we cannot be assured that the vote will be fairly won," Schiff remarked. He did not elaborate.

Seriously, though, Schiff is in a particularly bad spot. Standard Hotel. Phedopilia (sic on purpose). Photos inside Ed Buck’s condo. Coordinating the Ukraine hoax with the whistleblower. Selling us out to foreign countries that a) don’t deserve our tax dollars & b) want to see us fall. Yeah.

Can’t wait to see what you say about that kiddydiddler come December, GMONEY!!!

 

[Rippin]

You're kidding, Stone is as devious as they come.

Can you name one thing in which you firmly believe politically that isn’t an utter walking, talking hypocrisy?

“CLIMATE CHANGE IS REAL - JUST LOOK AT THE SCIENCES MAN!”
Me: “OK, gotcha. What about abortion? What about all the centuries of sciences proving there are only two genders & no such thing as a ‘transgender?’ Does science count then?”
“NO! NEVER, NEVER”

Friggin Tiblards

Cuck the Fougars & Duck the Fems! Lol

 

[Rippin]

Don't leave out Trump, Giuliani, Manafort, Stone, etc.

WOW do you have any idea what type of obligations Giuliani has to his client? He has every right to investigate any & all malicious attempts to potentially convict & incarcerate his client - in fact, that’s precisely his obligation to your President. That is why he would’ve spoken with both the DoJ & State Dept after traveling overseas to gather information as part of his investigation into who is trying to frame his client & why. Well, we already know the why.

Lol I can’t wait to see what you say after the truth comes out & no one with any morals or whatsoever will ever be able to vote for a Dem/Neocon again. It’s going to be glorious.

 

[astonmartin708]

So why did they change "yes" on Carter Page being CIA to "No" go ahead and spy on him?

Why are so many of Trumps allies in prison?

 

[TUMe]

Why are so many of Trumps allies in prison?

Because, like most people in prison, they broke the law and got caught.

Now, answer my question. Somebody broke the law by filing a false report to FISA court. Why are they not in prison?

 

[Rippin]

Why are so many of Trumps allies in prison?

None of them are in prison for anything connected to what they did with Trump - Manafort & Gates got in trouble for stuff they did years before Trump even announced he was running for president! Carter Page WORKED FOR THE CIA AS AN INTEL ASSET!! These people broke the law trying to bring down Trump. They could actually indict a ham sandwich if they wanted to, as the saying goes. Yet they’ve found nothing on Trump.

It’s even in Strzok’s texts “...there’s no ‘there’ there.” Quid pro quo is not illegal. In fact, it’s how most business is done. It’s how a lot of foreign policy is done. Contempt of Congress is not real. Trump Derangement Syndrome is.

 

[Rippin]

Because, like most people in prison, they broke the law and got caught.

Now, answer my question. Somebody broke the law by filing a false report to FISA court. Why are they not in prison?

Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Don’t worry, those people involved with lying to the FISC judge(s) will have their day in court & they’ll likely be convicted. Some other convict is currently keeping their cell warm for them in a federal penitentiary somewhere.

 

[astonmartin708]

Because, like most people in prison, they broke the law and got caught.

Now, answer my question. Somebody broke the law by filing a false report to FISA court. Why are they not in prison?

The FBI said that 2 of 4 of the Carter Page FISA requests were approved in error. It's not illegal to request that a person be surveilled. Take it up with the judges / clerks that are approved things erroneously and secretly.

There is no comparison between Nancy Pelosi / Adam Schiff and Trump's henchmen that we know of. Trump's henchmen have been found guilty and served prison time. Pelosi and Schiff are congressmen that may be divisive, but as far as we know, they're not criminals.

 

[lawpoke87]

The FBI said that 2 of 4 of the Carter Page FISA requests were approved in error. It's not illegal to request that a person be surveilled. Take it up with the judges / clerks that are approved things erroneously and secretly.

Tls.

Huh? The FBI clearly was at fault here.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/17/politics/fisa-court-slams-fbi-conduct/index.html

 

[astonmartin708]

Huh? The FBI clearly was at fault here.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/17/politics/fisa-court-slams-fbi-conduct/index.html

I'm not saying they weren't but it's still up to the (secret) court to approve the request. The request shouldn't have been approved without proper evidence being presented. And, again.... this was only in regards to 2 of the 4 FISA applications against Page.

This is the fundamental problem with having a court where only a prosecutor / investigator is presenting evidence against an individual.

 

[astonmartin708]

Why am I having to hear about how the President shouldn't be impeached from the guy who covered up rapes at Baylor?

 

[lawpoke87]

I'm not saying they weren't but it's still up to the (secret) court to approve the request. The request shouldn't have been approved without proper evidence being presented. And, again.... this was only in regards to 2 of the 4 FISA applications against Page.

This is the fundamental problem with having a court where only a prosecutor / investigator is presenting evidence against an individual.

Agree. However, one of the many problems in this case is that the FBI made statements to the court which were outright false. Basically...they lied to the Court to obtain the warrants.

The lack of concern over our FISA process and the abuse therein is one of the more concerning things I've seen in awhile as it relates to civil liberties.

 

[TUMe]

I'm not saying they weren't but it's still up to the (secret) court to approve the request. The request shouldn't have been approved without proper evidence being presented. And, again.... this was only in regards to 2 of the 4 FISA applications against Page.

This is the fundamental problem with having a court where only a prosecutor / investigator is presenting evidence against an individual.

Uh, the secret court approves based on information supplied by the FBI. Should the judges also do the investigations, cook supper, and clean the bathroom?

 

[astonmartin708]

I'm just saying, these situations are why FISA courts are a bad idea in the first place.

 

[aTUfan]

Heads should roll

 

[Rippin]

The FBI said that 2 of 4 of the Carter Page FISA requests were approved in error. It's not illegal to request that a person be surveilled. Take it up with the judges / clerks that are approved things erroneously and secretly.

There is no comparison between Nancy Pelosi / Adam Schiff and Trump's henchmen that we know of. Trump's henchmen have been found guilty and served prison time. Pelosi and Schiff are congressmen that may be divisive, but as far as we know, they're not criminals.

LOL!

My father always told me to never underestimate the stupidity of a FOOL! Way to end a sentence with a preposition, by the way.

If you want to live in a surveillance state move to China. Actually, we’re about 1 step away from living in the same type of surveillance state.

Pelosi & Schiff are criminals. Pelosi’s son is a criminal. John Kerry’s stepson is a criminal. Joe Biden’s son is a criminal.

Of course, it’s never illegal to request that a citizen of the USA be put under surveillance BUT this kind of setup-the-potential-President-elect nonsense is illegal & that is not for what the FISCs were created. Also, all of those judges from the FISCs are under investigation & even the clean ones will be scrutinized - especially the judge(s) that signed off in these FISA Warrants without looking into the unsubstantiated lies. They’re guilty but not as guilty as the FBI/DoJ.

 

[Rippin]

Agree. However, one of the many problems in this case is that the FBI made statements to the court which were outright false. Basically...they lied to the Court to obtain the warrants.

The lack of concern over our FISA process and the abuse therein is one of the more concerning things I've seen in awhile as it relates to civil liberties.

Exactly. They lied to get warrants on US citizens - patriots at that!

 

[Rippin]

I'm just saying, these situations are why FISA courts are a bad idea in the first place.

Really? Sounds exactly like what a terrorist-sympathizing, Soleimani worshipping leftist libtard would say.

Let me guess, Ilhan Omar didn’t create immigration fraud? She didn’t marry her brother? She didn’t lie about escaping the “realities” of being victim of terrorism in Somalia when in fact her father lied as he was the finance minister for the leader of what is now al-Shabaab in Mogadishu back then? I don’t vote straight republican but I definitely never vote democrat & I don’t see how anyone with any level of decent intelligence / critical thinking / minimal cognitive dissonance ever could.

 

[astonmartin708]

Exactly. They lied to get warrants on US citizens - patriots at that!

Patriots? As in... more than one patriot? Which ones were patriots that had falsified FISA documents on them? Seems to me like 3 out of the 4 involved in the "Crossfire Hurricane" investigation ended up in jail.

 

[Rippin]

Patriots? As in... more than one patriot? Which ones were patriots that had falsified FISA documents on them? Seems to me like 3 out of the 4 involved in the "Crossfire Hurricane" investigation ended up in jail.

I should have said “a patriot at that” referring to Page but there were other FISA warrants based on false pretenses. Don’t you worry, young man. The truth will be revealed at the perfect time. I suggest you just enjoy the show.

“Corn Ready for to be Cut”

Ww.gone.wga

17 ways to Sunday.

 

[Rippin]

17 examples of socialism/communism never working.

17 tyrants.

17 reasons I will never CAIR about leftists.

17 reasons I can’t name why one side (the side who can’t figure out which bathroom to use/wants pedophilia to be a “sexual orientation” & no cash bond for violent criminals) thinks they can round up the other side (which has 400m firearms) & put them gulags *cough* I’m sorry - “re-education camps.”

You seriously couldn’t come up with this craziness if you tried. Go take your kids to drag queen story hour.

 

[Gmoney4WW]

It was a soft preposition too.

 

[astonmartin708]

It was a soft preposition too.

Yo mama is a soft preposition. :boxing:

 

[Gmoney4WW]

...too.

 

[aTUfan]

Exactly. They lied to get warrants on US citizens - patriots at that!

Isn't this wha t the aclu is all about?

 

[Rippin]

Isn't this wha t the aclu is all about?

Lol I hate the ACLU so much... had Trump not won we’d’ve been doomed by now. It was truly Divine Intervention. We still may be headed for doom but Trump is giving us a fighting chance.

Read the FY18 Financial Report of USA Federal government. It’s downright frightening. It’s going to take decades for us to recover from what’s been done here. it’s actually shocking how much Obama was able to do in 8 years.

5 years after Obama legalized gay marriage not only did we have drag queen story hour / glamorize drag kids (& make one 11 year old drag kid famous even tho he danced a striptease at a gay bar as adult gay men threw money at him) but it’s now considered harassment if you state biological facts like “there are only two genders” or “men can’t get pregnant” or “men can’t have periods.”

It’s shocking & utterly disgusting. The Left wants us to believe science when it comes to climate change (no geologist worth their weight in salt agrees with the “scientists” that these “journalists” (they’re activists) never even name/cite) but when it comes to the most basic levels of biology/physiology they want us to completely ignore science.

EVERYTHING the Left does is a walking, talking, UTTER HYPOCRISY! That’s partially why they’ve become so unhinged, loud & even violent because they know their arguments make no sense!