NO MATTER WHAT WE DO TO USF OR TOURNEY SHORT OF WINNING IT WILL PUT US IN THE NIT. DONT BLAME THE TEAM BLAME THE REFS. SORRY NOT BEING CRITICAL JUST TO THE REFS.
This loss to Memphis today was worse rpi than oru
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Its all my fault I really felt we were going to lose but couldn't pull the trigger. MY loss
I blame Typ for not finding a big sassy girl to build up some karma with the ball gods
I don't even blame it on the Refs. But I do place the blame on DMann and coach Haith for not being able to recruit some eligible big men in the last three years, that are able to play this year. Tulsa is small inside even when TU's available big men are healthy. If you have the ball inside the circles the Refs will pretty much let anything go, as long as you have the ball. If your outside the circles and you lower your shoulder or barge into a defensive player who has position, then you will be called for a foul. Under present rules, if you have the ball you have the advantage and that advantage can be huge. Especially if you're bigger inside or have more numbers around the basket. That's what I saw in the Memphis game, at least the part I have seen so far. Memphis has size and they were using that size to move Tulsa out of the way when inside the circles.
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You can not blame the refs but the fact is the foul you mention wasn't called on Memphis despite it happening at least four times.
I haven't watched the entire game yet, Tulsa was on road they probably got good ole' Memphis home cooking with the refs. Nothing new there.
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It was tied for our 7th best scoring output of the season with the win @ SMU but was our worst defensive outing by 4 points.
We shot over 51% FG in the first half and 35% in the 2nd. The biggest issue was 1-10 from 3 in the 2nd vs 6-15 in the 1st. FT shooting was great at 86%.
We allowed Memphis 48% FG in the 1st and over 59% in the 2nd but the only hit 5 threes.
We got killed on the boards 40-25 but in points off turnovers 22 to 8 and fast break points 12-2. Bench points were great at 20 vs 11.
The problem was really that we were not allowed to play defense inside the first half and only having 2 bigs, it's virtually impossible to win in that situation and resulted in a 8-27 FT shot disparity at half which did turn into a TU 14-12 FT shooting lead in the 2nd when we were playing guards inside most of the time... which seems odd to me.
I was proud of how the team played, especially taking a lead into halftime considering how the game was called inside.
If we won, 29.
If we didn't play it or replace it, 29.
If we didn't play it, replaced with Creighton, and won, 26.
If we didn't play it, replaced with Creighton, and lost, 34.
Thank you, 29 would be pretty tough to keep out. Especially when you pair it with our quality wins. Of course we should just win that game, but it does absolutely nothing to help us reach our goals.
The battle with the ORU series (in it's current format) is related to the objective "value proposition" for TU...
Wojcik basically had "won" the argument, but got fired before more than just one season matchup was cancelled.
Weatherdemon's post was spot on...
-TU's RPI is the same if they win or not even play the game.
-However, a loss (which is likely) is very damaging.
For a team like TU that hovers around the bubble, the ORU game is a huge risk.
If TU wants to play a non-conference game against a 150 RPI team, make it a consistent home game against another team that doesn't consider it their game of the year.
If ORU was a consistent top 100 RPI team, I think the argument is different.
I agree with CTT that "the ORU loss alone doesn't keep us out"...
However the ORU game provides TU nothing but risk.
The TU players have never liked playing the game...nor do the TU coaches.
My prediction - after the Mayor's Cup agreement run out, it will become a 2-1 series.
Wojcik basically had "won" the argument, but got fired before more than just one season matchup was cancelled.
Weatherdemon's post was spot on...
-TU's RPI is the same if they win or not even play the game.
-However, a loss (which is likely) is very damaging.
For a team like TU that hovers around the bubble, the ORU game is a huge risk.
If TU wants to play a non-conference game against a 150 RPI team, make it a consistent home game against another team that doesn't consider it their game of the year.
If ORU was a consistent top 100 RPI team, I think the argument is different.
I agree with CTT that "the ORU loss alone doesn't keep us out"...
However the ORU game provides TU nothing but risk.
The TU players have never liked playing the game...nor do the TU coaches.
My prediction - after the Mayor's Cup agreement run out, it will become a 2-1 series.
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