The First Debate
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Yeah, I don't think the Democrats are going to quit calling for him to quit. Let's see where this stands in a week or so. I think he may find out he just stepped in front of a train.
I'm wondering why he didn't address Democratic congressmen, instead of governors.
Looks like the meeting had its desired outcome for Biden. The fact he’s still polling ahead of Kamala seems to be helping his cause.
That polling has been out for a few days. I saw a poll where he was polling even with Kamala, putting them both 2 or 3 pts behind Trump. They both will lose to Trump. From the way the governors meeting was described, it sounded like a cheerleading party. This just sounds like more covering up and hoping for the best. Foreign leaders are not going to have any kind of confidence in his abilities, and he's still going to have problems battling against constant attacks on his mental fitness every day, even if he wins office.(Which he won't.)
Excerpt from headline article on CNN,
"Biden’s comment during Wednesday’s meeting left several of the governors in the room frustrated, sources told CNN, and is one of the reasons that some of the participants have been rankled by the statement of loyalty and enthusiasm from them distributed by the Biden campaign on Thursday."
Don't be so certain yet. They just got the big cheerleader from that meeting, out for the press conference. Doesn't yet show if the other governors who were aggravated that the campaign was trying to cover them up are going to speak out about this. This is just more cover by the campaign, & does not address the issue.
If Biden were to leave the race, it would not be Kamala who would come out of a contested convention.
Things would get really dicey with black Dems if someone other than Kamala is chosen to replace Biden. We’ve already heard the warnings and the race card.
She’s a great African Amercian woman. Like how you attack the messenger and not the message btw. There’s not a group in existence that white libs hate more than African Americans whose politics are different than what white libs expect of them. Name calling almost always follows. Lots of hidden racism with the white lib crew.
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Hope you are right, but initial thoughts and movements are towards Kamala. Democrats start moving to Harris as Biden digs in Idiotic knee jerk move.
Dems are going to have a very hard time passing Kamala over IF she wants to be the nominee. Too many vocal Dems of color who will vigorously fight anyone else being the nominee.
In 2020, they chose Biden over Kamala, because Biden had a better chance of winning. Lots of voters in the Primary for 2020 voted for Biden, even though I think they preferred Kamala. You want the candidate that can beat Trump, not the candidate of the right color who can lose to Trump as badly or worse than Biden. She can take over his candidacy and funding with a lot more ease too. That doesn't change the fact that she will lose. You can't let the minority dictate your candidate if they will lose to Trump. Defeats the purpose of making the change from Biden. You salvage the minority and lose the center. With the right candidate, besides Kamala, you can pull the black vote back in. I think(and hope) you are wrong about the Democratic party.
VOTERS chose a number of Dems over Kamala in 2020. The difference here is the voters won’t be the ones choosing the nominee should Biden drop out of the race. The Dem machine will be the ones picking the nominee. I’m not convinced they have the strength to defy the vocal minority of their party even though there’s no doubt there are much better options than Kamala.
You would think the Machine would pay attention to the direction the Voters went in 2020 because it got them the office. Yes, I know the Media and the Machine desperately wanted the Kamala in 2020. Surely the Machine will realize that the Voters were wiser than they were, and follow their lead.
Going to be fascinating theater. Lawpoke’s current odds would be Kamala nominee at 65% assuming Biden drops
When you know who posted something without even looking it says something.
Let me save you the trouble of following up.
"You didn't answer my question."
I don't know how much is Biden refusing to admit, and how much is his campaign advisers refusing to admit things that make the campaign look weak. I think those two entities are on a reinforcing loop though. But Biden is incredibly recalcitrant to anybody. Won't pull out until the almighty comes down, won't admit polling is down, won't admit watching debate, won't consider testing, won't admit that people like congressman Pelosi, Schumer, and Jeffries are having meetings about his situation right now.
Forget not admitting there is an issue with age. He is not interested in the real strength of his campaign, or lack there of, which is reality now. Someone in that much denial is not a good candidate, regardless of age, or mental cognition.
Forget not admitting there is an issue with age. He is not interested in the real strength of his campaign, or lack there of, which is reality now. Someone in that much denial is not a good candidate, regardless of age, or mental cognition.
Joe biden is the Democrat nominee. That is who the primary voters elected. it's the process. live with it.
the party should have made this decision a year ago to avoid their current mutiny.
the party should have made this decision a year ago to avoid their current mutiny.
Biden was probably not in this state of decline a year ago. But you don't even consider all the factors, due to your cognitive state.
