Temple game thread
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We shot layups all game against ECU, who was in a zone. Agree with Chit, defense wasn't their problem. Tulsa was great defensively tonight. We're 2-0 against Temple, their fans can suck it.
We beat them on their floor, we beat them on our floor, given the chance we'll beat them in Hartford. Their fans need to just deal with it.
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Our defense was as good tonight as it has been all season. Swannegan and Smith really altered a lot of shots and Shaq too to an extent.
Haith went to the 1-2-2 3/4 court trap EVERY time Cummings was on the court to simply get the ball outbid his hands...very effective.
Shaq is becoming an outstanding PG and Haith drew up a brilliant play that showcased it tonight. Juice running off a screen and Temple's big made a quick show to deny the pass. Shaq looked towards Juice while TK slipped back door and Shaq hit him with the no look and a dunk.
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Haith went to the 1-2-2 3/4 court trap EVERY time Cummings was on the court to simply get the ball outbid his hands...very effective.
Shaq is becoming an outstanding PG and Haith drew up a brilliant play that showcased it tonight. Juice running off a screen and Temple's big made a quick show to deny the pass. Shaq looked towards Juice while TK slipped back door and Shaq hit him with the no look and a dunk.
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At the uner 8 TO Temple had only scored 4 pts in the second half. At the under 4 they had it up to 10. Without Cummings they had no one to threaten the lane. At one point it seemed Temple's offensive game plan was to brick a shot and grab a rebound for a put back.
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His improvement is really been a pleasure to watch. I also like the minutes we are getting from Edogi he is improving as well.
I'm almost beginning to think that Dre' is snake bit when it comes to fouling. If he can clean that up, we have three really good inside guys.
I really like are chances in Memphis. Thinking about making the five hour roady.
GO TU!!!!
I think the most under-rated part of this play was the fact he actually looked to see where he could save the ball too without just blindly throwing it back onto the court under his own basket. The basketball IQ this reflects is immense. That play was so impressive to me on so many different levels. I haven't watched the game back yet so I would be interested in knowing if the PBP/analyst picked up on that one key part.
Question to all: How is it that Swannegan and Wright have essentially had the same teachers and instruction for the main part of their playing careers in college, yet one seems to be on a continuous upward trajectory of improvement while the other has pretty much stagnated? (We will throw out the one year Swannegan was here under Wojcik since he didn't play at all). Seriously, the improvement we have seen in Swannegan's game from last year to this year and even through this entire season has been exponential. We don't see the silly fouls out of him even though his presence, energy and aggressiveness have seemingly risen. Wright makes the same mistakes he made FR yr and last yr with the silly fouls and turnovers, still taking too much time from catch to shot motion in the post. Is there even one aspect of Wright's game that has truly improved from FR year to now?
That's a tough one. I can't disagree, but I think we have some players who are at the same level...Juice and Shaq come to mind for me. That doesn't necessarily mean they don't have poor games, but I don't think it is due to a lack of mental toughness or focus.
He's just entertaining all the way around. Gives maximum effort with maximum emotion. Gets under skin. And still has a little left to pull the wool over on a ref. Then laugh it off with a sly grin. My kinda guy.
I didn't notice until recently, but BS actually looks about an inch taller than Deandre.
Also, I think DW is showing more aggressiveness now. We seem to be getting more quality minutes out of that postion
with those two and Edogi. As long as that spot is productive, we are pretty good.
IMO
Also, I think DW is showing more aggressiveness now. We seem to be getting more quality minutes out of that postion
with those two and Edogi. As long as that spot is productive, we are pretty good.
IMO
I've always felt like D'andre gets punished by the refs for being a man amongst boys when he's in the game. He gets offensive foul calls when these smaller forwards flop or sell calls, and then on the other end he rarely gets calls when players foul him underneath, simply because he has imposing size.
The biggest thing I want next season (besides better shooting) is our players winning in spite of poor officiating. That's happened during our last two games.... But in some of our non conference we folded when calls weren't going our way.
The biggest thing I want next season (besides better shooting) is our players winning in spite of poor officiating. That's happened during our last two games.... But in some of our non conference we folded when calls weren't going our way.
I won't dispute the lousy crew...comb-over hates us. HATES US. I wasn't there when Wright got called for the block, but Bruce said it didn't appear his feet were set and he hadn't established his position. Wright gets called for a lot of charges because he lowers his shoulder like a running back trying to run through a LB. Every time. The 2 foul calls I thought were completely bogus were the block called on Swannegan when he took the knew to the mid-section. Directly under the basket, didn't affect the play at all and Swannegan sort of laid off the play. Also in the 2nd half and pretty early, Swannegan got run over in the middle of the lane. He had been standing in the same spot for 3-4 seconds anticipating the drive. Absolutely plowed through....no call. Shaq took a slap to the head from #15 on a rebound...he even reached up and grabbed the side of his head. No call. Juice took a forearm shiver to the throat that did get called a player control call on the Temple player but it should have at least been reviewed to determine if it was excessive force to the head/neck area. Juice later got slapped in the face when Temple was fouling near the end of the game. Swannegan got popped in the head when he went up for a shot and shot blocker just pounded down on his head. Probably should have been reviewed as well.
Cincy player got tossed for a 2-handed push to the chest. Temple players do a Broad Street bullies* impersonation and the refs don't review any of them.
1974-1975 Philadelphia Flyers who were big bad bullies who fought a lot and pounded teams physically.
Cincy player got tossed for a 2-handed push to the chest. Temple players do a Broad Street bullies* impersonation and the refs don't review any of them.
1974-1975 Philadelphia Flyers who were big bad bullies who fought a lot and pounded teams physically.
Criminal!!! the ref said he was moving sideways. NO HE WAS NOT!!. HE was locked into position well before the player went into his motion, His feet never moved. The replay on the Jumbotron confirmed what I actually saw.
From that moment on I dubbed that ref the DTR. Designated Temple Ref. His calls thruout the game were heavily weighted to favor Temple.
Is college officiating just this bad or have we done something to piss off their fraternity? It gets worse every year.
Bond got a way with a flying elbow that warranted a tech, if not an ejection. They never even looked at the screen.
Bond got a way with a flying elbow that warranted a tech, if not an ejection. They never even looked at the screen.
Should have been a flag 1. Couldn't believe the official let it go. Same official, btw, that gave Haith a T at ECU. Last night's crew was one of the worst in college basketball.
I saw two bad calls.
The charge looked terrible IMO as his feet were set, but he was moving some above the waist. It seems that gets you the block more often than not.
The elbow was ridiculous and the ref saw it but ignored it. Certainly an ejection and a call the ref should be fined for ignoring.
I liked that they let the game be physical. We weren't used to this type of game vs SMU but they were allowed to play it and we didn't know how to respond. We responded well the other night and can use that not only for rest of the regular season but the AAC tourney, and especially the NCAA's.
The charge looked terrible IMO as his feet were set, but he was moving some above the waist. It seems that gets you the block more often than not.
The elbow was ridiculous and the ref saw it but ignored it. Certainly an ejection and a call the ref should be fined for ignoring.
I liked that they let the game be physical. We weren't used to this type of game vs SMU but they were allowed to play it and we didn't know how to respond. We responded well the other night and can use that not only for rest of the regular season but the AAC tourney, and especially the NCAA's.
There were several missed out of bounds touches that went their way. I wasn't as upset over the Wright call, a true 50-50, but we got literally no 50-50 calls. Tom O'Neil didn't get one right all night. Continually called phantom fouls against TU. Harrison a clean strip, and Ray a no touch foul while on the floor hustling.
When you evaluate the details of their effort, it was as bad as any game this year. The crew at SMU just let it be extremely physical. I don't have as much of a problem with that as I do just blatant incompetence.
I think there should be a shelf life on refs. When they stay in a league too long, they get a bit too acquainted with the coaches and some favoritism sets in. A lot of them get lazy or too tired during the course of the game. That needs to be delt with in a referee "heavy" game like basketball. When I see a gray hair out there, I get suspicious. Nothing against the second greatest generation, but retirement is sometimes a good thing.
The replay of the charge into Wright in the arena showed Wright was set for a decent amount of time. There isn't. Very good angle on the replay. You are looking at it from behind.
The elbow to Swannegan is a weird deal. The announcers talked about it. He pissed Bond off somehow and I guess the refs decided to let it go given how physical the game had been. It wasn't a basketball play, though,
The elbow to Swannegan is a weird deal. The announcers talked about it. He pissed Bond off somehow and I guess the refs decided to let it go given how physical the game had been. It wasn't a basketball play, though,
Brandon was actually laughing toward one of the refs after that, was he not? With an "are you serious?" kind of look?
The ref had to have seen it.
The ref had to have seen it.
There were a couple like that. The elbow to the head happened quickly and he laughed it off. The play BLABLABLA refers to happened a little earlier and he makes scene after he got up.
What the officials should have done is called the bigs to mid court and told them to cut that crap out. We were doing a great job getting position and it seemed like that was really bothering Temple.
It too often seems like the officials just don't care. They should care about limiting injuries. Curtis Shaw oversees AAC officiating and that may be part of our problem. That's like making Saul Goodman head of the bar association.
What the officials should have done is called the bigs to mid court and told them to cut that crap out. We were doing a great job getting position and it seemed like that was really bothering Temple.
It too often seems like the officials just don't care. They should care about limiting injuries. Curtis Shaw oversees AAC officiating and that may be part of our problem. That's like making Saul Goodman head of the bar association.
The elbow play...was that the one where the ruled the ball out of bounds off of Swannegan? They didn't show any extensive replays that were clear on the contact.
There was one in the 2nd half where the Temple player went up for a block and just hammered Swannegan's head, not close to the arm, wrist, ball or anything. Guy behind me yelled for a flagrant. I am not sure it was a flagrant, but it probably warranted a quick review because the contact was pretty excessive IMO and it was to the head/neck.
There was one in the 2nd half where the Temple player went up for a block and just hammered Swannegan's head, not close to the arm, wrist, ball or anything. Guy behind me yelled for a flagrant. I am not sure it was a flagrant, but it probably warranted a quick review because the contact was pretty excessive IMO and it was to the head/neck.
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