They are scrimmaging right now anybody there tell us how they looked. I couldn’t get in they have a man with a list at the gate. I did run into Bryce Bray’s dad and he thinks Bryce will probably start. Looked like quite a few people in the stands
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Too bad you didn’t have a drone you could fly over the stadium so you could give us a game report, dlsnid….
But kdub would likely shoot it out of the sky with a shotgun.
But kdub would likely shoot it out of the sky with a shotgun.
For some reason I just pictured this duck hunt style and one of the assistants popping up holding the drone like the dog would do in the game.
Would the assistant dare laugh if KW missed shooting it down though?
It's disappointing that the fans and media have been mostly shut out from the program. They better win this season or nobody will know this team even exists anymore.
It may be disappointing now, and more so if we don't have a winning season, but it's smart with regards to hiding some things before we run into Washington and Oklahoma. One of our biggest complaint revolved about Monty being so damn predictable, and Wilson closing ranks provides an opportunity to squelch that in the short term. If all is going well behind closed doors we shouldn't need to show much against Ark-Pine Bluff which will challenge the preparation of Wazu and Gooner due to the lack of information on who, what, and how he plans to put on the field. I've got my fingers crossed that the approach works and he opens things up in the future, but now is a time he has the opportunity to catch folks off guard.
Disagree. This is an example of a coach trying to control everything. It’s pretty easy to have an open scrimmage or practice here or there and just keep it super vanilla. It’s not like specific game plans are being installed right now anyways.
It’s not a great look imo for a new coach. Have an open “scrimmage or whatever you want to call it” for the fan base. There is zero harm in running a handful of basic plays. Run some drills. Fans want to see the new regime. Build excitement which hopefully translate into season ticket sales.
I find myself agreeing with rusty, but then I also agree with 918 and poke. Lol can't make up my mind.
KW certainly doesn't seem to want to excite and engage the fan base. He is kind of the anti-Konkol in that regard. So as it's been said, he had better win or else the fan base may go away quickly.
It's kind of like a new significant other.....those little quirks that are cute at first can become really irritating over time, and worse if things aren't going well.
KW certainly doesn't seem to want to excite and engage the fan base. He is kind of the anti-Konkol in that regard. So as it's been said, he had better win or else the fan base may go away quickly.
It's kind of like a new significant other.....those little quirks that are cute at first can become really irritating over time, and worse if things aren't going well.
My post was more from a Devil's Advocate type of perspective, as I can see it both ways and like so many others, would like to have a greater flow of information. To that a light scrimmage running base packages would have done a great deal in projecting good will versus paranoia.
I can see both points , from another point , it would be kind of boring to see just a bunch of basic plays, and we don’t want people to see what we are going to be doing ( looking at you ou) so I’m fine with all of it not being shown to the public , but he better win
But he better win because he didn't show us a scrimmage?
Some of the board is edging towards over expectation. Surprise, surprise.
My feelings of 'he better win' is not affected by him allowing us to see or not see a scrimmage. Just another excuse to feel that way.
(It's not just you saying that @TULSARISING. So don't think I'm picking on you in particular.)
Some of the board is edging towards over expectation. Surprise, surprise.
My feelings of 'he better win' is not affected by him allowing us to see or not see a scrimmage. Just another excuse to feel that way.
(It's not just you saying that @TULSARISING. So don't think I'm picking on you in particular.)
All good , I understand what you are getting at. I agree that showing a scrimmage shouldn’t be the ultimate reason for he better win . In all honesty , most spring games really don’t show us much anyway . Are they something that can get fans something to go do ? Sure , but they are not anything like the excitement from a real game so I could really care less if we have one or not , but I know it’s a long wait until football season and people just want something to see
its still about perception. it may be all vanilla but you are allowed to see something and in certain times that can settle nerves and sustain hope....
Let me state it a different way. The scrimmage is a very small part of the overall picture.
Fans overlook a coach's grumpiness or idiosyncrasies if he's winning. But they turn quickly if he's losing. We had scads of people continue to support Monty because he was a nice guy.
Also he could have shown mercy on us by giving us some TU football to watch and talk about instead of the god awful NBA playoffs, baseball, and golf
There are a limited number of practices in the spring and summer before your first game. If the coach believes he needs everyone of those sessions to have the team ready for a successful season that is his choice. I am more concerned with us being successful than whether we allow the fans to see us put on a vanilla spring game. I know it isn’t a popular opinion but let the man do his job. If he isn’t successful or showing significant areas of improvement over the previous coach I will be as critical as anyone.
I have a feeling his policies might change a bit in year two.
He has a team he is putting together right now, that is new to him/him new to them. The team is still in transition. He needs to shed a few players, add a few players, and make it through the transition. He really needs to see the players that won't be getting here till summer.(He has a fairly large class of additions.\24) We have one player leaving us right now, we just added a player. I'm absolutely positive that will continue through the summer.
He might not be comfortable with the public seeing an unfinished product.(When I say finished product, I mean a more complete looking team. Not one that is necessarily ready to play a game.) Next season he will be starting the spring with something that looks a lot closer to a finished product than what he could show right now. I think we will be a finished product in August, but right now I'm guessing we are not.
You must not be watching Suns/Clippers. That one is going to be a very good series.
It might be good for stakeholders in the program like fans and the media to be just as disciplined as the players. I for one am a little perturbed at the local media, who otherwise couldn’t be bothered with covering the program, complaining about access. Same with fans behind a computer screen complaining about the lack of a spring game who couldn’t be bothered to drive downtown on a Saturday much less up from Dallas last year.
I think since the portal is still open there are “Portal agents “ watching spring practices at several schools and then trying to get with susceptible transfers. I think this is a reason for some of the exclusion. Since a lot of people are on the list to attend, it doesn’t seem unreasonable to exclude those he doesn’t know well. He is easy to get to know and will put you on the list if you simply ask nicely.
I don’t think those are the fans on this board. What does discipline for a fan even mean in this context? Don’t ask for the things you want to happen?
People don’t value something if it’s readily available. Most especially self entitled reporters.
Or as Tom Kiefer once famously observed “Don’t Know What You’ve Got, Till It’s Gone.”
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I will die on my mountain that I’m not a fan of KW’s approach to almost everything thus far (based solely on the minimal amount of information that is publicly available).
If he’s implementing things in spring practices he’s worried about other coaches somehow getting access to that’s dumb. I’ve felt that way with every D1 Coach period. We will likely be projected in the bottom half of AAC, I can guarantee the other staffs are not concerned with TU spring drills and scrimmages.
I’m glad we moved on from Monty but I am CONFIDENT he’s more open approach to practices and sprint scrimmages had very little to do with his win/loss record. It had to do with game day decision making.
I’m probably in the minority on my feelings of KW and I’m okay with that. I promise I won’t be that guy that constantly rehashes my opinions of him and his approach to running a football program.
I’m just not impressed.
If he’s implementing things in spring practices he’s worried about other coaches somehow getting access to that’s dumb. I’ve felt that way with every D1 Coach period. We will likely be projected in the bottom half of AAC, I can guarantee the other staffs are not concerned with TU spring drills and scrimmages.
I’m glad we moved on from Monty but I am CONFIDENT he’s more open approach to practices and sprint scrimmages had very little to do with his win/loss record. It had to do with game day decision making.
I’m probably in the minority on my feelings of KW and I’m okay with that. I promise I won’t be that guy that constantly rehashes my opinions of him and his approach to running a football program.
I’m just not impressed.
So there is a TU football presser today at 11am. Hopefully KW will give some meaningful info about what transpired throughout spring practice. If reporters ask any meaningful questions.
Any idea how to listen or watch? I’m pretty skilled with the social media and email… TU doesn’t do well promoting things like this.
First question from the press....
"Coach, Blarney Blahblah - Tulsa World... Can you please describe your time at OU and how the experience of working with Coach Stoops has better prepared you to be a head coach at TU?.. and I would like to followup and ask what your favorite memory of coaching with Stoops and your favorite OU player you coached?"....
You don't have to watch. Noble just gave a perfect summary of the proceedings.
I'm not sold to this point either and will hold my opinion until he's had a full cycle under his belt. I can see both perspectives, and through blue and gold glasses I'm hopefully that the glass is half full and he will open things up a bit next spring. To this point I'm choosing trust that Rick Dickson and Dr. Carson knew how things were going to operate initially and were comfortable with KW's plan of how things would progress over both the short and long term.
Brad Carson isn’t Dr. Carson. He doesn’t have a PhD. Which many faculty will remind you of quickly and repeatedly if given the chance. Until you remind them he was a Rhodes Scholar and they were not.
which is one of many reasons most non faculty positions at TU hate working with the faculty. They’re pompous, self righteous, know it all’s who think they know how to run a university, but are actually only equipped to lecture on 18th century literature.
A bunch of Lucky Hank department faculty?
My mistake and very well put with regards to the Rhodes Scholar zinger. I bet that one does sting...
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