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One Last Prediction Thread

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With 2 exhibition games in the books, it looks like I may have overestimated Korita and maybe Igbanu. For Korita, it's just a matter of getting lost in the guard depth. For Igbanu, I'm still optimistic, but I didn't anticipate Jeffries starting at the 4 and taking a significant number of those minutes immediately. The rest I feel pretty good about. Scott may end up playing more minutes than this, but you still have to find time for Wheeler, Henderson, and Joiner. Putting it all together, here's how the numbers would compare to last season.



By my math, that's a 5-win improvement in the offense. So how about the defense?

Defense is notoriously more difficult to project than offense. Most models use a combination of a coach's historical defensive record, team height, and team experience. With those factors in mind, it looks like they're projecting a small improvement in D this year. KenPom breaks it down as an improvement from 135 → 94 this year.

Which makes sense if you look at the roster changes. Jeffries is the big upgrade. And Igbanu will improve with a year under his belt. Everything else is largely the same minus the two best (only) shot-blockers from last year's team.

In 3 seasons, the defensive identity under Haith has been pretty straightforward. Gap control prevents easy baskets on drives to the hole, even without a rim protector. Guards crash the glass to prevent second chances. And you give up boatloads of 3s on the kick out. Every year, Tulsa opponents have consistently averaged some of the longest possessions in the country. Unfortunately, that patience is too often rewarded with an open 3 in the corner.

Last year's team was worse at shutting down the drive, but the biggest difference between the good defenses in '15/'16 and last year's mediocre one was that they didn't get steals and they didn't force turnovers. That's where Jeffries comes in. If he can fill that Shaq Harrison void, then we could prey on those long possessions by forcing a turnover before the opponent can find their open shot.



So, my homer prediction is the best offense we've had since 2003, a slightly improved defense, 22 wins, a 4th place finish in the conference, and another trip to lovely Dayton in March. And to make it even more wildly inaccurate, I might as well go ahead and pick each game to wrap it all up.

 
So you project us to beat both Iowa St and KState but lose to a team (OSU) which is unanimously projected to finish last in the Big12?
 
Unbeaten at Home. Don’t know about that but would be sick if it happens! Ready for the season to start already!!!
 
I would take 12-6 in conference in a heart beat. But I also think South Carolina AND OkState will both be way down this year because of the amount of talent lost PLUS the looming FBI/Federal investigations hanging over those programs. And I don't see Illinois State being a factor this year. We win 2 out of those 3 games. I also don't know if we beat Wichita State at all, but don't think we lose to Temple in either venue. While 22-10 may be realistic, I don't know that we get there the way you predicted.
 
I think we get road wins at Illinois State and OSU. Paris Lee was the MVC POY last year and he’s now gone. I think we lose both WSU games.
 
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I'm not sold that Igbanu will be the second leading scorer on the team. It seems to me like Igbanu is too high and Joiner / Jackson / Jeffries too low in your initial statistic.

We won't lose to Illinois State. I think you can switch the W and L for WSU and @Temple. Also, I see it being very unlikely that we beat SMU twice.
 
Unbeaten at Home. Don’t know about that but would be sick if it happens! Ready for the season to start already!!!

It wasn't intentional, but the only stretch in that group is Wichita. All of our good non-conference games are away from home and we avoid Cincinnati in conference play.
 
So you project us to beat both Iowa St and KState but lose to a team (OSU) which is unanimously projected to finish last in the Big12?

Preseason ratings suggest that @OSU is roughly equal to KState and IowaSt on a neutral court.
 
I'm not sold that Igbanu will be the second leading scorer on the team. It seems to me like Igbanu is too high and Joiner / Jackson / Jeffries too low in your initial statistic.

Exhibitions suggest you are correct, but as Larry pointed out in his article today, Igbanu averaged 11 points in 22 minutes per game down the stretch last year.
 
Exhibitions suggest you are correct, but as Larry pointed out in his article today, Igbanu averaged 11 points in 22 minutes per game down the stretch last year.
I'm aware of that. It just seems to me that between Scott, Jefrries, Henderson, Taplin and the two freshman someone will score more than Igbanu. Especially when Igbanu won't benefit often from playing alongside Etou who took some of the attention last season when they played together.
 
I know I can't crunch numbers like he can...and most of them seem to use legit data points. And he's putting forth projections based on previous data. Does it mean this is where they're going to land...no. Some will be higher, some will be lower. My guess is last year projections spit Birt out at about 14 ppg, 36% 3pt, yada yada yada. He wasn't anywhere close to that. If everything were competed for on paper, we could just sit home and know we finished 19-13 and an NIT team and Duke or Kentucky would win the NCAA championship every year.

Thankfully the players have the opportunity to go out and play and work and prove the numbers, the "experts", and projections from Lunardi wrong.
 
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Using Sagarin ratings , ncluding home court advantages, Tulsa would be predicted to go 8-10 in conference. Taking Jeffries return & our improved play over the last few games, I could see us going 10-8 in conference.
 
I see us going 9-9 or 10-8. If we can incorporate Jeffries back into the cast and immediately add his play to the improvements we have made since he left, we might even win 11. Hopefully we can add him to the mix efficiently, almost immediately.
 
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