Okay Mr. “Free Speech” Protector…
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Whatever the Cheeto Bandito says it is.
Apparently it’s not storming Congress to stop a vote though. That doesn’t count (so long as you wear a red hat while doing it)
Anyone find it ironic Trump uses the platform of “free speech absolutist” Elon Musk to discuss his directives limiting speech?
Good to see you exhibit some principles.
To be clear, I do think there are such things as illegal protests (typically ones that turn into riots)… but I don’t think most college protests fit that description, nor do o think students should be threatened for peacefully protesting, even at events that do turn riotous.
I also don’t think Jan 6th folks should have been in trouble if they were non violent and stayed out of Areas being used for official election proceedings.
pretty much gatherings and protesting should be protected. Violence, property damage, theft, and preventing official government proceedings should not.
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Elon Musk’s AI chatbot estimates '75-85% likelihood Trump is a Putin-compromised asset'
President Donald Trump’s first major speech of his second term Tuesday night had all the hallmarks of one that could have been delivered by a ‘Russian asset’ compromised by Russian President Vladimir Putin himself, according to the AI chatbot developed by Elon Musk.In fact, the chatbot named...
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A 2018 report by the Oxford Internet Institute categorized Raw Story as one of the "Top 30 Junk News Sources on Twitter." Some consider Raw Story a hyperpartisan media outlet. Nice sourceElon Musk’s AI chatbot estimates '75-85% likelihood Trump is a Putin-compromised asset'
President Donald Trump’s first major speech of his second term Tuesday night had all the hallmarks of one that could have been delivered by a ‘Russian asset’ compromised by Russian President Vladimir Putin himself, according to the AI chatbot developed by Elon Musk.In fact, the chatbot named...
Looks like the American people like the Russian asset talk
Funny none the less.Elon Musk’s AI chatbot estimates '75-85% likelihood Trump is a Putin-compromised asset'
President Donald Trump’s first major speech of his second term Tuesday night had all the hallmarks of one that could have been delivered by a ‘Russian asset’ compromised by Russian President Vladimir Putin himself, according to the AI chatbot developed by Elon Musk.In fact, the chatbot named...
When have the majority of Republicans been anything but lemmings to Trump.
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I will say this…two months in and I’m not thrilled with where we’re headed in terms of tariffs and economic policies.
Among speech watchers****
President Trump's address to Congress draws 36.6 million viewers, down from first term
Trump gave the longest address to Congress in history. His past speeches got better ratings.
www.latimes.com
Well below those of his 1st term, and Fox News had the highest viewership at 10 Million+....
Per Nielsen, over 70% of the people in that 36 Million were 55 and Older.
Funding cuts for research are now leading to many public and private universities pulling Grad acceptances / assistantships from PhD's and other grad students. These aren't just in underwater basket weaving either.... I'm seeing rescinded offers from Chemistry departments, Cancer researchers, etc...
Funny that conservatives lauded Trump for make-a-wishing a kid with cancer at the SotU whilst also ignoring him cutting funds for cancer research.
www.huffpost.com
Is this what "Making America Great Again" looks like?
Funny that conservatives lauded Trump for make-a-wishing a kid with cancer at the SotU whilst also ignoring him cutting funds for cancer research.
Universities Are Slashing, Rescinding Graduate Admissions Amid Federal Funding Cuts
Several student applicants have said that their offer letters were rescinded, with university officials blaming "unforeseen budgetary challenges" for the decision.
Is this what "Making America Great Again" looks like?
Is that the kid the Dems wouldn’t acknowledge? Didn’t watch the speech but heard something to that extent ?Funding cuts for research are now leading to many public and private universities pulling Grad acceptances / assistantships from PhD's and other grad students. These aren't just in underwater basket weaving either.... I'm seeing rescinded offers from Chemistry departments, Cancer researchers, etc...
Funny that conservatives lauded Trump for make-a-wishing a kid with cancer at the SotU whilst also ignoring him cutting funds for cancer research.
Universities Are Slashing, Rescinding Graduate Admissions Amid Federal Funding Cuts
Several student applicants have said that their offer letters were rescinded, with university officials blaming "unforeseen budgetary challenges" for the decision.
Is this what "Making America Great Again" looks like?
You don’t get to use terminally ill kids as a ploy to pander to your base when you are simultaneously screwing over tons of terminally ill and disabled kids by killing their health research funding and the education department that oversees their early childhood care… (as well as pushing vouchers through state houses that screw them over)
You were holding up one of those stupid signs weren’t you?
Every SOTU has used people of have suffered hardships. Not acknowledging a sick kid was a nice touch by the Dems. Makes it hard to speak against any cuts in funding now
CHOICE. The word of the day.
vouchers let kids in a poor performing school a Choice go to a better school.
The illusion of choice.
It’s welfare for the wealthy. It’s a way to indoctrinate kids into religious teachings that should be somewhat limited / regimented during their development, and it’s a way to subvert educational standards. It also sucks for kids who can get denied for any reason whatsoever. (They’re not smart enough, not the right socioeconomic class, not the right religion, they have special needs etc…)
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The one area you go askew is talking about religion. A parent has a right to take their children to church as many times a week as they want to. As well, the parent can put them in private religious schools. One has no right to regulate that. Just because you don't feel like they should be 'subjected' to that until their hormones have taken over their lives doesn't make it right or wrong. But private funds rather than public tax dollars should pay for that, not school vouchers. And that's based on the separation of church and state not your philosophical beliefs.
so poor kids mush remain at their poor performing school instead of being able to choose a better one. if you don't like tax payer money going to church schools, then make that voucher worth half.
Make that voucher worth none. The solution is not to privatize schooling. It’s to make poor districts better.
Stop tying facility funding to property taxes for a start. (Or at least more evenly distribute that funding across poor and rich districts)
I want you to tell me what inherent advantages the structure / administration of a private school has over those of a public school in terms of making it a better place for children to learn. (And keep in mind that I actually went to both and my single mom did it without tax payer assistance)
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You are disadvantaging the lower income students, when the rich students need no advantaging. Rich students shouldn't be given preference over the poor. That's class warfare.
While I don’t disagree on principle, the problem is we’ve been trying to improve underperforming schools for decades here in Tulsa. Almost all efforts have either failed or resulted in minimum success. Meanwhile, disadvantaged students continue to suffer in poor performing schools. Resulting in repeating the cycle of poverty and often incarceration.
Might I suggest a system where those disadvantaged students who seek higher academic metrics are able to get assistance to attend better schools?
So they overburden Jenks, BA, Bixby, Booker T? That doesn't really seem to work. I don't really have a solution, but I know it isn't subsidizing the wealthy parents at private schools. That just makes it worse. Like I said, class warfare.
You’re not overburdening any school district. Just like they do now with transfers, they don’t take any students if there’s not space.
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Then the better schools will run out of space quickly, and where will all the students go? Nowhere, they will be stuck at the schools they are at right now. That doesn't solve anything. It should be a need based voucher if it is anything, and the voucher should be based on their need and the school they wish to attend, not a random 10k figure. But that solves it for advanced students, and makes it worse for the masses. The private schools profit, and the budget strapped schools like Central become worse, and even more budget strapped. Crime will just multiply, and students will drop out faster.
Do you really believe there will be a large number of students / parents who would use such a system to transfer schools? There would be some but I doubt if you would see attempted transfers in the numbers you’re envisioning. If we do the number of transfers would obviously be limited to space.
I would love to see underperforming schools see significant improvement in their results. We’ve tried about everything including throwing money at the problem. If there’s another solution I would love to to try it. I’m just tired of the same ole “solutions” which get the same ole “results”. We need new ideas.
There are a lot of decent students out there whose parents would love this opportunity. I think the applications would be more than you think. Like at least three or four times as much as the better schools could handle. And the rural schools wouldn't get much out of it. They need new methods to try at the schools that already exist, not just rearranging the tax dollars to better, (more wealthy schools) and disadvantaging the already taxed schools even worse. Talk about abandoning that group of students even worse!
After decades of failure I’m not optimistic. We just repeat the same cycle of dropouts and incarceration . I do feel for those disadvantage kids who want a better education and their parents who would love for their kids to have that opportunity but are too poor to move into the Jenks or Bixby school district. I would like to see a pathway for that group who wish to change their lives
So would we all. It takes a genius with a plan. Abbott and his wealth redistribution plan that takes from disadvantaged school districts, and gives to wealthy parents who don't need government funded discounts to schools is not a genius. You don't just do something because you can. You make an attempt to solve a problem, or do nothing at all.
The federal govt is not responsible for funding education you dunce.
The states are in control of, and fund their own state's education. The federal government gives grants for programs and places guidelines on what is and isn't included for studies in all states, etc. My relatives have to throw out crap like that in every conversation, things they didn't think about before Trump. Of course they are much more intelligent about it than you, but it's still crap.
I just said earlier that I don't have the solution, but that you don't fix it by doing something stupid that makes the system worse like abbott is doing. And you don't fix the system federally, that is just guidelines to help make it better. Your best bet is to start looking at states that do it well and use their system as a guideline. Also use things from foreign countries that you don't think aspects only apply to people of that culture. But you don't do silly destructive things to the system.
