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How many coaching hires have we made since then? How many successful coaches did we pass over?

Todays problem has very little with what happened 25 years ago.
Yes it does. You add Gillispie to Nolan, Tubby, & Self, and the proceeding hires get easier and less expensive with higher caliber interviewees. Everybody wants their chance at Tulsa, not just the spin outs of the agencies, which get proceedingly of lesser and lesser talent.
 
Yes it does. You add Gillispie to Nolan, Tubby, & Self, and the proceeding hires get easier and less expensive with higher caliber interviewees. Everybody wants their chance at Tulsa, not just the spin outs of the agencies, which get proceedingly of lesser and lesser talent.
Gillespie was a good coach, but he was also clearly a drunk. There's just as much of a chance that he flamed out at Tulsa via his addiction as he was to succeed. Even then, that was nearly a quarter century ago. Most coaches weren't even out of college at that time and all recruits weren't born yet. Get over it and deal with the situation at hand.

I have very little interest in what an agency wants to feed me. Agents are the people who convinced our school to give Wojcik, Haith, and Konkol extensions rather than pink slips. Obviously most of (if not all of) these coaches will have representation, but if they're stuck to using them as a barrier to discussions on program philosophy then I probably don't want those coaches anyway.

We can of course discuss contract details through agents, but I would refuse to operate a coaching search via consultancies or agencies as a primary method of identifying and vetting candidates other than for background checks of the people I (as a hypothetical AD) identify.
 
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Gillespie was a good coach, but he was also clearly a drunk. There's just as much of a chance that he flamed out at Tulsa via his addiction as he was to succeed. Even then, that was nearly a quarter century ago. Most coaches weren't even out of college at that time and all recruits weren't born yet. Get over it and deal with the situation at hand.

I have very little interest in what an agency wants to feed me. Agents are the people who convinced our school to give Wojcik, Haith, and Konkol extensions rather than pink slips. Obviously most of (if not all of) these coaches will have representation, but if they're stuck to using them as a barrier to discussions on program philosophy then I probably don't want those coaches anyway.

We can of course discuss contract details through agents, but I would refuse to operate a coaching search via consultancies or agencies as a primary method of identifying and vetting candidates other than for background checks of the people I (as a hypothetical AD) identify.
You think you know how it works. You always do. You don't have a choice on which coaches you interview unless you have something to bring them in. Done.
 
You think you know how it works. You always do. You don't have a choice on which coaches you interview unless you have something to bring them in. Done.
Well the people who supposedly ‘know how it works’ clearly didn’t have a clue what they should have been doing… if they had, we wouldn’t have been in this mess…
 
Problem not the agency. Although I agree TU in the past has placed too much emphasis no their opinion. We had some good option last basketball hire. A bad AD and a supporter made a questionable choice.
 
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How many coaching hires have we made since then? How many successful coaches did we pass over?

Todays problem has very little with what happened 25 years ago.
Technically yes, you’re right in the sense that we’ve had the opportunity to correct our mistakes several times over the past two decades and have struck out pretty much every time… now the reasoning for striking out has been a little different every time, but the overall theme is that there are too many cooks in the kitchen when it comes to this type of thing.

To the point about Billy Clyde: I do agree that it would have continued TU’s success for several more years just because of the type of recruiter he was. Now when he would have eventually left, would TU have made a smart hire or a stupid hire? Hard to say but history is leaning towards stupid hire… BUT at least we would have given ourselves a little more time to potentially milk the success and possibly make a good hire (that could have fallen in our lap after BCG departed for greener pastures).
 
I find it funny that though he was an alcoholic, his career consisted of UTEP/Texas A&M/Kentucky but somebody still thinks he could have spun out if he had stayed here. He had several good years before he spun out. Illinois for a couple of years as an assistant, and 2 good years each at two different institutions. (UTEP & Texas A&M) But he might have done a header if he took over at TU for Self.

His career says he would have succeeded at TU and been gone a couple of years later. No revision of history says he would have failed here.
 
It was almost a quarter century between Nolan and the NIT and the Eliete 8 run... it been a quarter century since then...

All we need to do is hire a junior college coach with a high caliber team ready to transfer and excite a city depressed by the oil bust.

Easy...
 
Biggest mistake was not hiring Billy Gillispie to succeed Bill Self. Everything went downhill from there. Billy got most of those players anyway for TU. Judy hired Buzz Peterson.
Praise God that Billy has turned his life around and regained his health. However, I have my suspicions that Billy’s issues were already evident to those on the inside when we hired the buzzard and that contributed to the decision being made to pass n him. That being said, I’m not nor will I ever be a fan of Judy, but it was probably a good call at the time. No doubts about recruiting or coaching with regards to Billy; he’s top notch. Buzzard was absolutely not the right one and there were much better options.

That’s definitely when the wheels fell off…
 
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Praise God that Billy has turned his life around and regained his health. However, I have my suspicions that Billy’s issues were already evident to those on the inside when we hired the buzzard and that contributed to the decision being made to pass n him. That being said, I’m not nor will I ever be a fan of Judy, but it was probably a good call at the time. No doubts about recruiting or coaching with regards to Billy; he’s top notch. Buzzard was absolutely not the right one and there were much better options.

That’s definitely when the wheels fell off…
The reason we didn’t hire Billy is the fact that Self wanted to take him to Illinois to recruit and told Judy to take Norm Roberts. Billy was told not to apply to give Norm a chance. Self screwed us over on that one for his own benefit. Billy had no issues at Illinois.
 
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