Nice deal on CO2

[TUMe]

From BBC News.

"US President Barack Obama said the move was "historic", as he set a new goal of reducing US levels between 26%-28% by 2025, compared with 2005 levels.


China did not set a specific target, but said emissions would peak by 2030."

Great deal, we cut our emissions by 27% by 2025 and China keeps going up until 2030. Sounds like I will gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today.

From the same article, China has 29 percent of global emissions and the US 15 percent. So the smaller number will go down in exchange for a promise that the larger emitter will stop going up in 16 years. Instead of The Great Leap Forward we get the Great Leap of Faith.

I want the Chinese to go with me the next time I buy a car. No payments for 16 years then I'll see what I can do.

This post was edited on 11/12 4:09 PM by TUMe

 

[noble cane]

But, he looks so dapper and natural in his ChiCom suit....

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[rabidTU]

Get ready for rate increases on your electric and gas bills as well as an added gasoline tax at the pump. This junk is why we have to have someone other than a lieberal damoc-RAT in the white house. There is no end to socialist schemes to reward the slackers at the cost of the makers. And their reasoning seems to now be that we are too stupid to take care of ourselves and that they - the smart ones - must decide whats best for us.

BTW it sure is cold today. So when our bills start increasing to penalize us for using too much rationed energy, get ready for colder houses and longer lines at the propane store so we can run our toy car another day. China and Russia are laughing at us and they should. Obama, when he smiles is looking more and more like a well dressed moron (see picture above).

 

[aTUfan]

Is there actual scientific evidence that "man made" CO2 is the sole cause of "climate change"?

Where was man when the glaciers melted?
What about 'polar inversion'?
how about natural forces like volcanos , continental shift and earthquakes (that move Japan 13 feet closer to the US in just a few Seconds),


gooogled "Ice thicker at poles"






Antarctic sea ice hit 35-year record high Saturday


www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital- weather-gang/wp/... Cached


Antarctic sea ice has grown to a record large extent for a second straight year, baffling scientists seeking to understand why this ice is expanding rather than ...





North Pole Sea Ice twice as thick as expected


www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/ article/10662 Cached


North Pole Sea Ice twice as thick as expected. By News on the Net April 29, ... The sea-ice in the surveyed areas is apparently thicker than scientists had suspected


This post was edited on 11/13 10:49 AM by aTUfan

 

[lawpoke87]

Inhofe responds to U.S. - China Agreement. Is he correct?




President Obama and President Xi of China have come to an agreement on greenhouse gas emissions. It's being hailed as a "historic" breakthrough ahead of the 2015 U.N. Climate Change Conference, but I have three words: Talk is cheap.

OUR VIEW: New hope for the planet

This reminds me of 1998, when President Clinton signed the Kyoto Protocol knowing full well that it would never be ratified by the Senate.

China is taking a page from the Clinton playbook. There is nothing binding about President Xi's agreement, and China will face zero consequences if it does not live up to its word.

And we should have no such expectation. This is a non-binding charade because as China's economy grows, so will its demand for electricity. China is the largest consumer and importer of coal in the world, accounting for 50% of global consumption.

Over the next decade, China is expected to bring a new coal-fired power plant online every 10 days to give its hungry economy the electricity it demands, according to the Energy Information Administration.

Unlike the United States, China does not have other inexpensive energy resources. China has not had a shale revolution, and it has no known natural gas reserves.

To continue to support the world's largest economy, China will have no choice but to break its promise of hitting its emissions peak by 2030.

Meanwhile, President Obama's agreement binds the U.S. to immediate action, which he will pursue through regulations and mandates.

The climate rules his administration is already developing for power plants go beyond the scope of the Clean Air Act, and the cost to implement just one of these rules is expected to total $479 billion from 2017 through 2031.

While China continues to lure manufacturing and agriculture jobs away from our shores with promises of cheap labor and abundant electricity, these overbearing regulations will only move the needle by 0.018 degrees Celsius by 2100.

As Republicans take the majority in the new Congress, I will be working to ensure these rules do not become final or put at risk our economy and domestic energy expansion.