Ecu game thread
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Tulsa zero turnovers, at the line with a lead of seven.
Tulsa turns it over several times, lead cut to two.
Ugboh filling his role, a rebound, some junk points to break a drought, a foul. Giving Idowu rest.
Calm down and be strong with the ball and TU should pull away, a lot of ECU's offense has come off transition into defense off them even if they weren't break aways.
Tulsa turns it over several times, lead cut to two.
Ugboh filling his role, a rebound, some junk points to break a drought, a foul. Giving Idowu rest.
Calm down and be strong with the ball and TU should pull away, a lot of ECU's offense has come off transition into defense off them even if they weren't break aways.
Eli has games where he does this multiple times, it's literally a middle school thing that most coaches run out of their point guards pretty early. No idea why he developed that habit.
Brandon with 3 bad turnovers. Just the stats
He is our best player but need to quit forcing things
Anyone tell me why Richie and Jackson aren't taking every minute KES and Haywood get? Anyone?
You looked at the stat box and decided they were bad? That's not a good way to judge a game.
Please try and do better. If my teammate throws a bad pass and I grab it trying to safe it and step on the out of bounds line or he leads me into a set defender for a charge, that's my turnover, not a bad one, and not my fault, but it goes on my sheet.
Please don't. You realize I am watching this game? I know exactly what is going on and you have no clue what a bad turnover is.
Replay the game and you will see what I mean. Mainly first half
Driving baselins and steps out of bounds and drives basket up for shot and throws it away with no where to go with the balll. Can’t remember third but also out of control bad turnover
Going to come down to rebounding and FTs, 2 things we’ve been poor at today
That series of play right there and the finish from Rachal Jackson is our bread and butter for this team. That's why Jackson needs 30 mins not Haywood.
I agree. Jackson is a difference maker even if he can’t shoot from outside. He just does so many things right on defense, cutting to the basket, and making great passes.
Neither of those are bad turnovers. Stop.
Here is an example of a bad turnover
You throw a soft pass across the top of the key, an off defender breaks on the ball and pushes the opposite way for an easy lay up.
It is a live ball change that leads to an easy scoring opportunity with no chance for a defensive recovery.
Stepping out of bounds on a drive while trying to make a pass, that results in a deadball change of possesion, 90 feet from the basket you are defending sucks, in some situations it may break your momentum or add to the opposition's, but it's not a bad turnover.
It's the last time I will take the time to explain to you something obvious for people experienced with basketball when you are foolishly arguing something like this. Next time ask and I'll point out why it isn't what you think it is. You have a mathematicians view of the game which is all the rage right now but really doesn't equate to understanding the game.
Brandon Rachel is the man. Just as important as his scoring and rebounding was the defense he played on Gardner down the stretch. He was the only guy on the team who could cover him.
Not quite. It's a matter of who got the majority of our shots (Richie) and shot selection from everyone else. I saw two that we shouldn't have taken and we actually made both of them, which offset the 3 open ones we should have made and missed
That looks familiar?????
Also lol whoever thought Schumate would get minutes. Not that he shouldn't of, but this is a Haith MO especially for freshman, they get very little play on the road, Williams was basically a zero play today. Besides Haywood starting told us all how this would go, maybe next game he pulls the trigger 🤷♂️ I thought he used KES much better but he probably still got a few more mins than he deserved. At home those extra mins may go to Williams.
Gardner is a nightmare, if he develops an outside shot and a pull up drive off that outside shot, he will murder people and be a 1st round NBA talent.
He is a shorter darker Larry Bird in that 8ft-18ft range. Soft, pretty, will use the board, spin either way, fall away or spot up. Just money, it's an old school game I enjoy watching him.
KES with 14 mins
Jackson with 27 mins
This is much better, a few of those could go to Williams.
Haywood with 24 mins 3pts 3 rebounds
Richie with 27 mins 14pts 3 rebounds (when he has 2 or more 3pts we are 6-0 for the record)
Ten of Haywoods minutes should be going to Schumate, Williams, and Richie. Haywood needs to be a defensive sub till he can start producing on offense
Jackson with 27 mins
This is much better, a few of those could go to Williams.
Haywood with 24 mins 3pts 3 rebounds
Richie with 27 mins 14pts 3 rebounds (when he has 2 or more 3pts we are 6-0 for the record)
Ten of Haywoods minutes should be going to Schumate, Williams, and Richie. Haywood needs to be a defensive sub till he can start producing on offense
Why I turn you back on I have no idea. It's a mistake I just can't explain.
Tell me again knowledgable one how I was wrong?
Did or did not Jackson win us this game? Were those turnovers bad turnovers by Rachal who finished with 21 points and dominated the second half?
Was I wrong when I pointed out that Richie's numbers are absolutely unarguably better than Haywoods?
How about how little playing time Schumate got?
How about how our play is directly related to the number of minutes Richie gets and how often he shoots?
Oh did you mean the comment about Igbanu? Tell me what were Idowu's numbers again? Would a sane basketball knowledgable person pick Igbanu over the four I mentioned? How about over boughknight at UConn? Or Akok Akok? Enrique at WSU last year? Gilbert this year at WSU or last year at UConn? How about Grimes on Houston last year? This year?
Christ even when you just play your normal follower role you still can't get basics right.
They transferred out of their respective schools because GEORGIA Tech and Arkansas realized they had better players than those two . Why would anyone want Haywood ? Why not give Gendron 5 minutes playing time ? He could’t shoot the ball any worse
Just for fun, tell me who is who?
A) 22.2 mins a game 9.2pts 4.5 rebs .9assts .2blks .3 stls 57fg%
B ) 26.6 mins a game 13.6pts 5.0rebs .6assts .3blks .5stls 56fg%
C) 22.9 mins a game 10.4pts 5.0rebs .6assts .3blks .4stls 57fg%
D) 26.7 mins a game 12.2pts 5.2rebs 1.5assts .25blks .25stls 55fg%
A) 22.2 mins a game 9.2pts 4.5 rebs .9assts .2blks .3 stls 57fg%
B ) 26.6 mins a game 13.6pts 5.0rebs .6assts .3blks .5stls 56fg%
C) 22.9 mins a game 10.4pts 5.0rebs .6assts .3blks .4stls 57fg%
D) 26.7 mins a game 12.2pts 5.2rebs 1.5assts .25blks .25stls 55fg%
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