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Cincinnati @ Tulsa Gamethread

They just wish they could leave.

They're not going anywhere, except in their fantasy world.
 
Curtis made one really nice layup and then the crazy triple spin travel and the floating pass from the point that was easily intercepted. I was worried every time Juice didn't have an opportunity to score the last 3 minutes at the ends. Smith played about as well as I have ever seen in crunch time. Got his shot off in the paint over the giants.
 
Yeah Smitty was huge last night. Played tough defense against way bigger guys. It helped that they let everyone other than Swannegan play.
There were some questionable calls/non-calls throughout the evening and both ways. Smith coming down on top of the PG in the last couple of minutes and there not being a call, Swannegan blowing up Ellis late resulting in Ellis missing his 6" shot....neither one called...yet Shaq's clean block gets called, Ellis running into Swannegan (who held his ground) and flopping like Messi gets called a foul. Reviewing Swannegan's push to see if it was a flagrant, but not reviewing the one on Clark (or Ellis, can't remember which one) when they hammered down across Woodard's face on a rebound. Ellis, Clark, and DeBerry get away with more chicken wings and bumps underneath than Wright and Swannegan would ever be allowed to.

I will say I did enjoy the fact that Cincinnati didn't flop defensively like teams like to do against Wright and Smith. However, if we try to play that physically against any of the remaining teams on our schedule, Wright and Swannegan would foul out in 5 minutes. The difference in standards of how a game are called is ridiculous, especially when Cincinnati is involved. I am pleased that the game seemed fairly called and somewhat consistently in that we got away with as much contact as they did, but its unfair for players, game to game, to have to figure out what's a foul and what's not.
 
Right, and the specific officials seem to change their mind game to game on what they will call. We had the older ref for either the Houston or Tulane game. He called it differently than last night. Makes no sense.
 
TU's toughness & resiliency are really impressive. Agree with all comments about thuggishness inside not being called, although 2nd half was better officiated. BTW, at halftime a TU student was given a chance to win $12K if he made a half-court shot. They should have bumped it to $15K & given it to a TU student named James Woodard. Unbelieveable!! Most players & civilians can't even throw it 75' let alone actually aim & fling it & get it anywhere the basket.
 
There were some questionable calls/non-calls throughout the evening and both ways. Smith coming down on top of the PG in the last couple of minutes and there not being a call, Swannegan blowing up Ellis late resulting in Ellis missing his 6" shot....neither one called...yet Shaq's clean block gets called, Ellis running into Swannegan (who held his ground) and flopping like Messi gets called a foul. Reviewing Swannegan's push to see if it was a flagrant, but not reviewing the one on Clark (or Ellis, can't remember which one) when they hammered down across Woodard's face on a rebound. Ellis, Clark, and DeBerry get away with more chicken wings and bumps underneath than Wright and Swannegan would ever be allowed to.

I will say I did enjoy the fact that Cincinnati didn't flop defensively like teams like to do against Wright and Smith. However, if we try to play that physically against any of the remaining teams on our schedule, Wright and Swannegan would foul out in 5 minutes. The difference in standards of how a game are called is ridiculous, especially when Cincinnati is involved. I am pleased that the game seemed fairly called and somewhat consistently in that we got away with as much contact as they did, but its unfair for players, game to game, to have to figure out what's a foul and what's not.
How was that not a double dribble at the end of regulation on Coupain(sp)? He dribbled in the lane and it bounced off his own leg and he picked it up and took another dribble. Isnt that a double dribble? Maybe they got the timeout beforehand but I dont think it was going to be called.
 
How was that not a double dribble at the end of regulation on Coupain(sp)? He dribbled in the lane and it bounced off his own leg and he picked it up and took another dribble. Isnt that a double dribble? Maybe they got the timeout beforehand but I dont think it was going to be called.
How about the refs letting Cronin chew their ass out late in the game. Plus how about TU working on better in bound plays against full court press, they really need to shore that up.
 
Double dribble isn't called like it used to be. Usually the litmus test on that is whether or not the individual had full control of the ball when his dribbling motion stopped. If you lose control of the ball and pick it up, generally the refs allow you to reestablish your dribble almost as if the ball were knocked from your hands by a defender. Because the game has been allowed to become so physical, refs often lose sight of the more rare violations like double dribble and 3-seconds in the lane because they're too focused on whether or not the hand check is having an impact on the ball handler. I didn't think Caupain double dribbled on that one. However, I counted on 4 different occasions where Ellis was in the lane for 5-6 seconds seemingly unaware he was leaving indentations on the court from standing in the same place for so long.
 
How about the refs letting Cronin chew their ass out late in the game. Plus how about TU working on better in bound plays against full court press, they really need to shore that up.
Cronin should have been T'd up after the called the travel late. Not only did he travel, he committed a foul when he chicken winged Dre and threw him out of the way. I always though Cronin was more even keel than Huggy Bear...reality is he's just shorter and a ginger.

As for the inbounds play, Cincinnati is a different team defensively than any other team on our schedule. They play hard nose, in your face defense for the entire game and they have some extraordinary athletes doing that. The inbounds plays were exactly what were drawn up. Juice got fouled (Coupain hit his arm trying to get his hand on the ball), Ray is just too fast for his own good (and there may have been a shove in there). TU got the looks they wanted and to the players they wanted. Juice wasn't keeping the ball there anyway...he was going right back to Shaq as the baseline defender came to double. The play is designed that way. Ray ran off a screen to get a slower Clark on him.
 
The three seconds no calls were out of control last night. Cinci relies on guys standing around in the lane like they are waiting to get in Burn Co. That one gets missed a lot but it was remarkable last night. Must be another Jedi mind trick by Capt. Sportsmanship.
 
The three seconds no calls were out of control last night. Cinci relies on guys standing around in the lane like they are waiting to get in Burn Co. That one gets missed a lot but it was remarkable last night. Must be another Jedi mind trick by Capt. Sportsmanship.

Jeez. Gold, you're on fire with the analogies lately!
 
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I liked the human centipede analogy and the comparison to the goggles character from Star Wars personally.
 
I thought I saw Ken Yaszel at the game. He was filling out the paper work, it seems Ellis was in the paint long enough that he owes real estate taxes to Tulsa county!
 
The legislature then called the refs and said no taxes were due because we don't pay for government services or schools anymore.
 
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