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Biden & Burisma Scandal Suppressed by Facebook & Twatter

shon46

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People should be outraged that social media is actively censoring an actual news outlet (NY Post). People stand idly by doing and saying nothing bc all they care about is getting Biden elected. Just wait until they start censoring Liberals. These companies are the biggest threat to our democracy and their protection must be removed.
Pics of Biden’s son smoking crack, emails, messages, financial records! What a joke!
https://www.zerohedge.com/political...ter-biden-introduced-vp-dad-burisma-executive
 
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Its interesting that every time the dems accuse trump or the Republicans of something, the dems have done it too. But the dems seem to get a hall pass.
 
People should be outraged that social media is actively censoring an actual news outlet (NY Post). People stand idly by doing and saying nothing bc all they care about is getting Biden elected. Just wait until they start censoring Liberals. These companies are the biggest threat to our democracy and their protection must be removed.
Pics of Biden’s son smoking crack, emails, messages, financial records! What a joke!
https://www.zerohedge.com/political...ter-biden-introduced-vp-dad-burisma-executive
I highly doubt the veracity of the story.

However, if weighing into which stories to censor and which to let run rampant causes enough outrage that Facebook and Twitter get regulated out of existence, I'll consider it a win.
 
People should be outraged that social media is actively censoring an actual news outlet (NY Post). People stand idly by doing and saying nothing bc all they care about is getting Biden elected. Just wait until they start censoring Liberals. These companies are the biggest threat to our democracy and their protection must be removed.
Pics of Biden’s son smoking crack, emails, messages, financial records! What a joke!
https://www.zerohedge.com/political...ter-biden-introduced-vp-dad-burisma-executive
Bout as much credibility as Obamagate unmasking & the 'fake' domestic spying scandal.
 
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Bout as much credibility as Obamagate unmasking & the 'fake' domestic spying scandal.

Maybe. Not really the point though. The problem is you have the two major social media sites censoring a sourced story while doing nothing about multiple stories with unnamed sources due to those sites political agenda. Sadden but not surprised to see people support political based censorship. History tells us such censorship is often very dangerous to a democracy.
 
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This no different than cnn etal. They create a report to fit their agenda and provide the vehicle for its distribution
 
Maybe. Not really the point though. The problem is you have the two major social media sites censoring a sourced story while doing nothing about multiple stories with unnamed sources due to those sites political agenda. Sadden but not surprised to see people support political based censorship. History tells us such censorship is often very dangerous to a democracy.
I agree it's problematic. Though there is the issue that you could look at the original news source. It's social media editing how a media outlet that has a website of it's own, is shown on a secondary social media site.

Anyway a story of this magnitude will leak out around the edges, as it did. That's even if the big two of social media sites don't show it. A controversy bigger than if the actual story was just not censored happened. Ideally the social media sites will look at how they handled this issue the first time, and do better the next time around. I wasn't commenting on how it was handled by the social media sites, so much as it being a muck raking story created solely to bias a small to medium segments of the public. It was an attempt to show some of Twitter and Facebook's motivation for censoring.

But we still want it out there on social media, regardless of all the Shon's who take it as the honest to God truth.
 
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Here's the way I see it:

Hillary Clinton's email server scandal had roots in some very real and legitimate questions about her judgement. Even if you accepted that there was nothing criminal to her email server, or at least no ill-intent, it looked really bad, and was definitely a stupendously dumb idea. Those questions allowed darker insinuations to flourish. It was also legitimately being investigated by the FBI to ensure that the emails contained on it were not classified and to determine if there were any crimes committed. All of that hurt her with voters, a lot. She would likely have been president without it. A lot of people voted for the Devil they didn't know (Trump), or Johnson, or just stayed home.

There was a lot of mud thrown, and a lot of disinformation about it, but the reason it hurt her was that at its core, it raised legitimate questions about her judgement regarding the email server, even if everything was technically legal or well-intentioned.

This Burisma scandal, in comparison, is comically transparent and all the information about it is ultimately being sourced from within the Trump campaign. It's the insinuations about Hillary's emails being for nefarious purposes to do human trafficking and such, but without the verifiable core story that calls into question Biden's competence or integrity. That's the missing piece, and that's why this attack line simply won't work without real actual evidence that didn't come from a member of the Trump campaign.


And that's the other issue. The Trump campaign has been so dishonest the last four years that nobody believes them about anything anymore. They could have a legitimate smoking gun, but people are largely conditioned to ignore the crap he and his acolytes say. And that much is on nobody other than Trump. If they want the Biden/Burisma stuff to stick, they need an independent entity to bring the evidence forward. Not Rudy Giuliani leaking it to a biased news source that did none of their own investigation.
 
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Here's the way I see it:

Hillary Clinton's email server scandal had roots in some very real and legitimate questions about her judgement. Even if you accepted that there was nothing criminal to her email server, or at least no ill-intent, it looked really bad, and was definitely a stupendously dumb idea. Those questions allowed darker insinuations to flourish. It was also legitimately being investigated by the FBI to ensure that the emails contained on it were not classified and to determine if there were any crimes committed. All of that hurt her with voters, a lot. She would likely have been president without it. A lot of people voted for the Devil they didn't know (Trump), or Johnson, or just stayed home.

There was a lot of mud thrown, and a lot of disinformation about it, but the reason it hurt her was that at its core, it raised legitimate questions about her judgement regarding the email server, even if everything was technically legal or well-intentioned.

This Burisma scandal, in comparison, is comically transparent and all the information about it is ultimately being sourced from within the Trump campaign. It's the insinuations about Hillary's emails being for nefarious purposes to do human trafficking and such, but without the verifiable core story that calls into question Biden's competence or integrity. That's the missing piece, and that's why this attack line simply won't work without real actual evidence that didn't come from a member of the Trump campaign.


And that's the other issue. The Trump campaign has been so dishonest the last four years that nobody believes them about anything anymore. They could have a legitimate smoking gun, but people are largely conditioned to ignore the crap he and his acolytes say. And that much is on nobody other than Trump. If they want the Biden/Burisma stuff to stick, they need an independent entity to bring the evidence forward. Not Rudy Giuliani leaking it to a biased news source that did none of their own investigation.

I don't think the argument here is about the veracity of a certain story. It's about censorship by media sources (and yes, platforms like twitter and FB have become significant media sources for most Americans) due solely to a certain political agendas. Anyone with any foresight understands the possible consequences of such widespread censorship to promote a political agenda. History tells us as much. I agree the sources are suspect. However, when these sites allow stories to run with anonymous sources the action becomes problematic. Even a possible biased source is better than an unnamed source in as far as said source's creditability can be taken into account when reading the story or in this case emails. We could have long discussion about the current practice of using unnamed sources and lack of vetting when it comes to our media outlets but that's a discussion for a different thread.
 
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I don't think the argument here is about the veracity of a certain story. It's about censorship by media sources (and yes, platforms like twitter and FB have become significant media sources for most Americans) due solely to a certain political agendas. Anyone with any foresight understands the possible consequences of such widespread censorship to promote a political agenda. History tells us as much. I agree the sources are suspect. However, when these sites allow stories to run with anonymous sources the action becomes problematic. Even a possible biased source is better than an unnamed source in as far as said source's creditability can be taken into account when reading the story or in this case emails. We could have long discussion about the current practice of using unnamed sources and lack of vetting when it comes to our media outlets but that's a discussion for a different thread.
I absolutely agree that these platforms are arbitrary in what they censor and what they don’t. There are plenty of crackpot ideas that they do nothing about. We can argue about whether or not they should do anything, and under what circumstances, but whatever they are doing now doesn’t cut it.
 
Thought this deserved a bump. Not because of the actual story but as an example (and danger) of the silencing of free speech based on political motivation. Thread also shows how our own political biases affect our beliefs in stories….both liberals and conservatives.

 
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