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Marco Rubio, Trump, Immigration

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Little Marco got on TV and said that there are now 30 million illegals and now wants them all shipped out. Does anyone care to think that this country could afford to have 30 million people shipped out?

Marco Rubio is an anchor baby. Should he be forced out?

 
Little Marco got on TV and said that there are now 30 million illegals and now wants them all shipped out. Does anyone care to think that this country could afford to have 30 million people shipped out?

Marco Rubio is an anchor baby. Should he be forced out?

He's parroting Stephen Miller's plan. He's parroting most of Trumps positions after that. He sounds like he is taking up Giuliani's mantle, in order to try & pick up the VP spot.
 
Little Marco got on TV and said that there are now 30 million illegals and now wants them all shipped out. Does anyone care to think that this country could afford to have 30 million people shipped out?

Marco Rubio is an anchor baby. Should he be forced out?

Is he considering people born in this country to be illegals?

30 million sounds high to me but I’m not sure anyone really knows the number….and no, you can’t ship 30M out of the country.
 
Is he considering people born in this country to be illegals?

30 million sounds high to me but I’m not sure anyone really knows the number….and no, you can’t ship 30M out of the country.
if their parents were, they should be
 
if their parents were, they should be
If you were born in this country and they were raised in this country, they shouldn't be punished for the fathers sins. You are an A1 classy kind of guy aTUfan. What high morals you have. Sending a kid that has known nothing but America back to a latin American country is primo. Some of those kids don't even know Spanish.
 
If you were born in this country and they were raised in this country, they shouldn't be punished for the fathers sins. You are an A1 classy kind of guy aTUfan. What high morals you have. Sending a kid that has known nothing but America back to a latin American country is primo. Some of those kids don't even know Spanish.
It sounds so cool and easy until you realize what the deportation of 30M looks like. It would be the entire state of Texas. Good luck.
 
take you pick, 10 years, 20 years ... no more anchor babies.

Please use the front door
How about 150? I’m sure I can find some of your ancestors through that time that didn’t come through the front door.
 
It would cause a shortage in employees in the service industries of Hotels & Restaurants, Lawn Care, the Housing industry(for repair renovation and building of new housing), the Health Care industry, and many many other industries. It would also cause inflation in those industries, in order to make those jobs more attractive to US citizens. But the labor shortage would still be there. Even if they were to spend inordinate amounts of money to find and deport half of those immigrants, that would still be 15 mil. That's nearly 5% of our population. That would likely take up a large part if not all of our unemployed populace. There would not be enough labor to replace these illegal immigrants, and that's only if they found just half of them.

This is not a feasible and well thought out plan. It is only a plan that has been formed to make it's enactment possible, by a racist white supremacist named Stephen Miller. He is probably the worst influencer of Trump. Stephen Miller would be a top General and administrator for Hitler, if he were placed in Germany circa the 1940's. The guy is that repulsive. He is where some of Trump's worst impulses were formed. Trump is really not an influencer, he is an influencee. It is people like Miller who are influencing the nation through Trump as a puppet. Nobody in Trump's unformed new administration has even thought about the ramifications of this policy, just how to git er done.
 
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There are more than 1 million people in this country with final orders of removal. People that have been afforded due process for their asylum and immigration claims, but were unsuccessful. Some have been in the country for more than a decade.

The current administration has done little to enforce those deportation orders, unlike the Obama and Trump administrations.

There are another at least 300,000 with deportable criminal convictions who have been allowed to remain while their asylum cases are pending.

Approximately 3% of all students over stay their student visas every year. This number is now over a million people. Little is done to enforce these over stays.

These are Congress’ own numbers.

Operationally, the difficulty is not deporting the entire state of Texas, which would be cumbersome, it’s returning them to their country of origin - who has little interest in providing social services to returned felons, orphaned children, and people who will flee the country again.

During the process of deporting persons who should be removed, officers inevitably encounter persons who are not authorized to remain who are much more sympathetic. So deporting cartel members becomes difficult when they reside with their undocumented 91 year old grandmother and niece who is 8 months pregnant.

These are complicated issues with multiple overlapping priorities. Each with its own downside.

The system is broken and needs to be fixed. That doesn’t absolve the executive branch’s obligation to enforce all laws. Or empower the executive to invoke broad discretionary authority to not enforce laws on the grounds of expediency or efficiency to reach discrete political ends.
 
There are more than 1 million people in this country with final orders of removal. People that have been afforded due process for their asylum and immigration claims, but were unsuccessful. Some have been in the country for more than a decade.

The current administration has done little to enforce those deportation orders, unlike the Obama and Trump administrations.

There are another at least 300,000 with deportable criminal convictions who have been allowed to remain while their asylum cases are pending.

Approximately 3% of all students over stay their student visas every year. This number is now over a million people. Little is done to enforce these over stays.

These are Congress’ own numbers.

Operationally, the difficulty is not deporting the entire state of Texas, which would be cumbersome, it’s returning them to their country of origin - who has little interest in providing social services to returned felons, orphaned children, and people who will flee the country again.

During the process of deporting persons who should be removed, officers inevitably encounter persons who are not authorized to remain who are much more sympathetic. So deporting cartel members becomes difficult when they reside with their undocumented 91 year old grandmother and niece who is 8 months pregnant.

These are complicated issues with multiple overlapping priorities. Each with its own downside.

The system is broken and needs to be fixed. That doesn’t absolve the executive branch’s obligation to enforce all laws. Or empower the executive to invoke broad discretionary authority to not enforce laws on the grounds of expediency or efficiency to reach discrete political ends.
That's where they need to start, by fixing the system. That way this problem continue to happen the way it has been happening. They had Biden between a rock and a hard place, because he is losing support. Biden gave the Republicans things the Democrats have refused to give the Republicans in forever, to start turning around that problem with support. If you try to solve the problem after the fact, which is what this deportation situation is doing, it creates it's own intractable problems.(which you were referencing) Fixing those problems before they become intractable in the future is prudent.

Trump refused to let him put legislation through, so as not to give him a victory and the Republicans supported Trump in doing this. If the Republicans were confident in their message they should have put that legislation through. This could have been turned into a victory for the Republicans, if it was put to the public properly.
 
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