Up to 50 programs implicated in FBI probe

[chito_and_leon]

all conferences, HOF coaches. Will be interesting.

If you had to vote on “most likely to be involved”, would have to be SMU in the AAC. Auburn in SEC? Who else?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...aches-players-programs-involved-in-corruption

 

[mcane]

UConn; OK State; Cinncinatti; SMOOOOOOO; UT

 

[I.I.]

SMU, OSU. SMU, Auburn, SMU, Louisville, SMU

 

[Bill Lowery]

SMU, OSU. SMU, Auburn, SMU, Louisville, SMU

You left out Southern Methodist University.

 

[bluegold70]

Y'all reckon SMU had anything to do with this?!?!

Nuke em!!!!!

 

[Henry Kendall]

I see what you did there, I.I. Very smoo-th.

 

[noble cane]

Without looking... KU, UCLA, MSU, Duke...

 

[TU Sepp]

N. Carolina, Duke, ND, OU, Alabama, So. Cal., Oregon, etc...

 

[Gold*]

N. Carolina, Duke, ND, OU, Alabama, So. Cal., Oregon, etc...

You left out SMU. By the way, SMU should be on your list. I see you have a list there. Lists are things that include names that belong to a category of things. Which go on a list. And your list should include SMU.

Yours truly,

John Klein

 

[astonmartin708]

Just hoping Frank's in the clear on this one. If we were cheating, we didn't get enough ROI.

 

[Gold*]

Just hoping Frank's in the clear on this one. If we were cheating, we didn't get enough ROI.

I talked to my dad about that yesterday. Do you really think if we are cheating if we field a team with Wheeler and a couple of others? I love our players, but man, we have a couple of guys who are not quite ready for prime time.

 

[Bill Lowery]

You left out SMU. By the way, SMU should be on your list. I see you have a list there. Lists are things that include names that belong to a category of things. Which go on a list. And your list should include SMU.

Yours truly,

John Klein

I’m surprised Klein spelled SMU correctly.

 

[lawpoke87]

Couple of thoughts....

I will be shocked if the NCAA does anything to these schools. The NCAA relies solely on the NCAA tourney to fund it's operations. There is now way the NCAA places numerous blue blood programs on probation as this would damage the product and the tourney.

Second...if coaches at Okla St cheated the school needs to demand a refund.

 

[noble cane]

Couple of thoughts....

I will be shocked if the NCAA does anything to these schools. The NCAA relies solely on the NCAA tourney to fund it's operations. There is now way the NCAA places numerous blue blood programs on probation as this would damage the product and the tourney.

Second...if coaches at Okla St cheated the school needs to demand a refund.

I would be surprised if some NCAA bureaucrats aren’t caught up in this as well..

 

[Gold*]

Couple of thoughts....

I will be shocked if the NCAA does anything to these schools. The NCAA relies solely on the NCAA tourney to fund it's operations. There is now way the NCAA places numerous blue blood programs on probation as this would damage the product and the tourney.

Second...if coaches at Okla St cheated the school needs to demand a refund.

I disagree. I think they have to do something. TAX EXEMPT STATUS.

 

[Weatherdemon]

I disagree. I think they have to do something.

If there is a way to not do something, they'll find it.

 

[lawpoke87]

I disagree. I think they have to do something.

Oh...I think they will do something but the something will be announcing rules and other measures to prevent such a thing from reoccurring. What I don't think they will do is levy broad penalties against the the elites of college basketball. They make too much money on those programs. So....new measures addressing this issue and sanctions against Middle Tennessee State.

 

[Gold*]

Oh...I think they will do something but the something will be announcing rules and other measures to prevent such a thing from reoccurring. What I don't think they will do is levy broad penalties against the the elites of college basketball. They make too much money on those programs. So....new measures addressing this issue and sanctions against Middle Tennessee State.

I think they have to drop a hammer to stay tax exempt. This will be he most interesting dispute in the history of college sports.

 

[lawpoke87]

NCAA is in a tough spot imo. They have given away much of their power to the P5 conferences to pacify them into not forming their own organization. The FBI has something the NCAA lacks in these investigations....subpoena power. I expect the findings to reveal widespread corruption between schools, coaches, AAU ball, sponsors, and agents. One of those things everyone knew was happening but didn’t talk about. Fascinating times ahead.

 

[Henry Kendall]

So this is just basketball, right? Will it filter over to football?

 

[seniorgolfer]

Couple of thoughts....

I will be shocked if the NCAA does anything to these schools. The NCAA relies solely on the
NCAA tourney to fund it's operations. There is now way the NCAA places numerous blue blood
programs on probation as this would damage the product and the tourney.

Second...if coaches at Okla St cheated the school needs to demand a refund.

The NCAA may or may NOT have much control of this....Some of the interstate transfers of funds
may well have been Federal crimes....The Justice Department, while having lost a lot of races
to snails, will be the determining decision maker if that is the case.....

 

[TU_BLA]

We already know Adidas was involved so that worries me. Also makes me think that maybe UCLA and perhaps in the past, Notre Dame.Right now there are a few high profile schools with Adidas agreements, but a ton of smaller G5/mid-majors who are Adidas schools. Now, there is an article speculating that Nike and Under Armour ran similar schemes of trying to get players to their schools and ultimately sign shoe deals when they went pro.

I don’t worry terribly much that we’ve had agents paying players and coaches here to “sign” them early. We just don’t attract that caliber of one and done player.

 

[JesseTU]

The nature of the allegations make it likely that even programs that don't seem to have the need to cheat could be involved. Even a program with a head that is known to be clean could get caught up by an assistant uniting Company X with the family of Recruit Y, and the head coach/program could honestly be out of the loop. So I'm not sure stability and head coaches with integrity would even rule a program out.

Programs that draw lots of eyeballs and media attention who are attracting recruits that are likely to play in the NBA. Essentially, it seems the companies, agents, promoters, and others wanted to manipulate college basketball to get future stars "endorsing" their products or ready to sign with them early. Indications are this strikes at the top of college basketball:

"It's not the mid-major programs who were trying to buy players to get to the top," a source told ESPN. "It's the teams that are already there."

https://www.si.com/college-basketba...ting-scandal-fbi-probe-violations-punishments

The full list of coaches, players and programs caught up in the scandal won’t be revealed until the FBI has concluded its probe, but at least half of the top 16 teams that were projected to be in this year's NCAA National Championship tournament, according to the selection show projections a week ago on CBS, are said to be tainted in some way.

http://www.wildcat.arizona.edu/article/2018/02/o-basketball-fbi

It could be a great excuse for the NCAA to reassert leverage over the P5. It could be enough to really shake things up and cripple the top level programs for a period of years and allow the "mid-majors" to grab the momentum. Maybe it puts pressure on the NBA to eliminate the 1 and done rule that causes so many NBAers in waiting to pretend to be students for a year. Or... since it is so wide spread, it could be that the big boys band together, write off a number of casualties and throw them under the bus, then go back to business as usual.

 

[goldenhurricane2]

Looks like the only school from our conference to get busted is Wichita State (Fred VanVleet).

 

[Bill Lowery]

Looks like the only school from our conference to get busted is Wichita State (Fred VanVleet).

You all know that the guy in the most trouble is Christian Dawkins, Lou Dawkin’s son. I bet he’s not too happy with all this.

 

[goldenhurricane2]

You all know that the guy in the most trouble is Christian Dawkins, Lou Dawkin’s son. I bet he’s not too happy with all this.

Yeah the whole thing is pretty amazing... then you gave dbag Dan Wolken of USA Today trying to defend all the cheating schools/players.

 

[cmullinsTU]

Names beginning to come out. Wouldn’t be surprised if NCAA does nothing and says it’s criminal activity and outside their powers, which is clearly BS. I hope I’m wrong though. HC’s are paid so much, if the NCAA does nothing, they’ll have no problem continuing to let their low level staff take the fall.

https://sports.yahoo.com/exclusive-...g-high-profile-players-schools-103338484.html

 

[Weatherdemon]

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/d..._publish_494/96e16f6a4c59110f79886134bba30a51

 

[TU_BLA]

Here’s a new one about
Marvin Bagley, Jr

Anyway, it’s pretty sordid and shady. NBA just needs to let these kids go. The one and done is ridiculous.