You are talking about hacking online machines at local polling precincts or tabulation counts coming from election boards as far as I understood it. I reread it, and you were talking about hacking a hand count which I either misread, or you edited right after I read it. Because I didn't recall you talking about a hand count being hacked. I'm not even sure how that would work.
There is no online of voting machines at local polling precincts in Oklahoma. The count is figured by the offline machine and not sent anywhere online. It does not even have the capability to go online. There is a memory stick that stores the count inside the machine, and paper ballots in the machine. They can be hand counted, recounted by the machine, and/or the original count on the memory stick looked at, if there is a question about a count.
The election board receives the machines brought to them by individual precinct inspectors driving to the election board to hand in all of their materials. They then do all of their checking and rechecking of the tabulations. They check the spoiled ballot bag to make sure all the numbers add up. They also check the provisional ballot bag to make sure those #'s add up. At some point, I assume they send their counts to a central location in OKlahoma(OKC) and/or directly to Washington. It may be online, or it may be over the phone, or both. I have never checked how it gets to Washington. But if it is online, it would be only after it is tabulated and seen by I assume at least two people with printouts at their desk.(I assume it goes to many more desks than this.) They would have several places to catch it, if hard count #'s in election board offices are not matching what they have seen in the offices in Washington DC.
My understanding was that you were talking about local polling precincts being online and transmitting live counts over the internet as they came in. I was saying that it would be harder to catch hacking if the results were being transmitted live, and only live, without a hard count done offline for checking purposes. It could be done, but it would be harder to catch it, than if results were tabulated offline, and then transmitted to a central location. If that is not what you were addressing, then I didn't understand the post I was responding to properly.
I didn’t edit my post, as you can see at the bottom right of every post. When I do edit, it’s typically to correct syntax that doesn’t translate well from a voice app I sometimes use.
I never said the voting machines transmit results live as they happen.
You gave a more lengthy statement of airgapping, which is what I was describing. It’s good to know that OK uses memory card/thumb drives locally, so long as they are digitally signed to prevent duplication and there’s public inspection available of those signatures. And assuming that isn’t the only air gap that occurs, as I glossed over above.
As you might be able to tell, I litigated dozens election integrity cases, though I got out of the business in the early 2000s when it was apparent courts had no interest in the cases, even when defendants confessed in open court. Not to mention candidates are typically broke and want you to work for free on the promise of a job that pay a quarter of what you make and adds a boss to your life.
My personal favorite: the convicted sex offender who bought a gas station so he could trade stolen gift cards redeemable at his station for $20 in gas in exchange for the absentee ballots of the local Black community which he cast for a relative on the ballot. The bought ballots flipped the elections. Plural. Anyone who says vote by mail is secure knows they are lying to you.
Least favorite: local election chief who turned a blind eye to subordinates who used spare ballot bags and old seals to cover up a strategy of slow counting a multi jurisdictional race so they didn’t report their totals until they knew the margin they needed to make up to ensure their candidate won and using very cleverly disguised unauthorized copies of ballots. She knew but we couldn’t prove she knew. And it was a classic case of why all the hubbub about hand counts are always better than electronic tabulators is flawed argument, especially in underfunded counties and off presidential elections.
Most troubling: the number of known political operatives, of both parties, volunteering in nursing homes to collect absentee ballots.
Most fun: defending strippers accused of giving free lap dances in exchange for “I Voted” stickers in an election with a referendum on a zoning ordinance to ban adult entertainment.
You may be too eager to disagree with me.
