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The future of the US.

watu04

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I have a real concern about what we are passing on to the next generation, mostly arising from concerns about our internal divisions hindering our ability to compete internationally.

If the cold war with Russia was essentially a competition between two forms of government to determine which model could deliver a healthier, more economically successful society, by about 1990 it was clear that the US had won. A key Russian failure was the inability of a centrally planned economy to allocate resources as efficiently as a market-based economy. After WWII the US steadily built up international institutions that supported liberal democracies in general and supported US influence and goals in particular. The dollar became the reserve currency, trade agreements generally favored us, and NATO was viewed as the gold standard of military alliances. In 2000, the US had a budget surplus and a national debt of $5.6Trillion.. All in all, not too bad.

Now in 2020, the US is politically divided on many of those issues and there is no general consensus on how we move forward. Trump won his four years by complaining about how awful things were, that our alliances were unfair, our economy failing, and our trade deals worse. He introduced an authoritarian style that was very different than what had been the norm

I'm not interested in debating Trump. What I am interested in and pose as a topic of discussion is "Are we so divided that we can't compete?" Another way to pose the question is to bring up China. (Yes.I know, that's a third rail on this board, but let's see if we can discuss the issue without name calling).


China is a much more sophisticated, tougher competitor than Russia. It offers to the world a model of an economically successful authoritarian government. In just fifty years, China has moved from a 3rd world country to having the 1st or 2nd largest economy, and is the only large economy not currently in recession. Yes, there are repugnant aspects of Chinese society that we can debate later, but regardless, they offer the world an example of a growing market economy lead by an authoritarian government that is not stalled by internal deivisiions.. Most importantly, China is pursuing a consistent strategy that supports long term planning and commitments. The US is not.

Do you view this as a problem as I do. If so, how to we move toward a consensus that allows up to better compete?
 
The answer is yes! We are so divided we cannot effectively compete. China has a China first policy. It’s their 100 yr plan to overtake the US. It implicitly says their goal is to overtake the US. Their China first policies make them an absolute menace to all their neighbors. We have to take extreme measures to counter the extreme threat yet our politicians and especially Big Tech continue to sell us us out to China. We were on the path to correcting this huge problem but until we as a country can wake up, purge this communist ideology of hating everything American that has infected us, and stay on a path of America first, we will fall.
 
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China is a couple decades away from demographic implosion, so they’re going to move hard while the killing is good. Enjoy it while it lasts WaXi
 
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If we could have kept our foot on their necks for 4 more yrs we would have freed ourselves from their grip.
 
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China is a couple decades away from demographic implosion, so they’re going to move hard while the killing is good. Enjoy it while it lasts WaXi

Ok, I'll pose on another site where posters skip the personal insults and actually discuss issues.
 
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Ok, I'll pose on another site where posters skip the personal insults and actually discuss issues.
Personal insults coming from URedskin54? I didn't see any bonafide insults coming from him. Only delusions coming out of a single poster who thinks we had China on the ropes recently. Seems like you are just wanting to hear an echo chamber.
 
Ok, I'll pose on another site where posters skip the personal insults and actually discuss issues.

you once accused me of believing that dead US soldiers got what they deserved so please forgive me if your pouting over something as tame as WaXi has no emotional effect on me
 
in just 9 months Biden and the dems policie resemble socialism, marxism, and communism.

we have lost the 1st amendment. people are banned from social media for voicing an opposing position.

under the excuse of covid relief we now have socialism. free gov money, free college, free health care, free rent, no incentive to get a job, free rent.

when is an infrastructure bill not an infrastructure bill? When only 15 percent goes to infrastructure ... and the rest is pork. in the current bill $500,000,000,000.00 actually goes for roads, bridges, tunnels, ...
while $300,000,000,000,000.00 does not
.wow that a lot a zeros.

we are now under a barrage of brain washing and mandates for crt, blm, gender pronouns, social justice, mask don't mask, get a shot, gw,
 
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in just 9 months Biden and the dems policie resemble socialism, marxism, and communism.

we have lost the 1st amendment. people are banned from social media for voicing an opposing position.

under the excuse of covid relief we now have socialism. free gov money, free college, free health care, free rent, no incentive to get a job, free rent.

when is an infrastructure bill not an infrastructure bill? When only 15 percent goes to infrastructure ... and the rest is pork. in the current bill $500,000,000,000.00 actually goes for roads, bridges, tunnels, ...
while $300,000,000,000,000.00 does not
.wow that a lot a zeros.

we are now under a barrage of brain washing and mandates for crt, blm, gender pronouns, social justice, mask don't mask, get a shot, gw,
Go back to math class. They'll teach you to take a few zeros off that figure.
 
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Yet China keeps building coal power plants. China primary advantage is they simply don’t give a damn what it’s citizens think or the rest of the world. They do what they want and don’t care about public or world criticism. Whether is building coal power plants, supporting the Taliban, hacking Microsoft, placing hundreds of thousands in labor camps. What an advantage.

 
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I sure woukd like to see WATU's tax returns... see if he reports all that cash he gets from the CCP to promote their agenda over here.
 
I already have one post about WATU and the use of the word hyprocisy. Thanks for reminding me of his China loyalty. We shouldn't get carried away with party politics not even the good old Chinese Communist Party politics.
 
Remember the good ole days when WATU lectured us about bringing up Obama and asked us to focus on the current administration.
 
the future of the US is not jeopardy from the outside, our problems are internal

everything adversarial . Us vs them. good vs bad. red vs blue. my way or the highway. no tolerance for an opposition voice.
 
Do you talk to yourself out loud as much as you post the same old sh1tus every day, sometimes not even rephrased.
 
just my opinion, like you have your opinion; or are people no longer allowed to have an opinion
Other people don't repeat their opinion on here over and over.

You just talk to yourself. I guess it's your security blanky.
 
the dems now want to give everyone $2000.00 a month.
I get that already. it"s called Social Security. I worked for 50 years and the government took $10,000.00/yr from my paycheck to pay for it. so I now have $500,000.00 in the ss pot.


how much will the newbies pay in before they get their's?
 
the dems now want to give everyone $2000.00 a month.
I get that already. it"s called Social Security. I worked for 50 years and the government took $10,000.00/yr from my paycheck to pay for it. so I now have $500,000.00 in the ss pot.


how much will the newbies pay in before they get their's?
You made 135K since you began working? Wow… must be nice.
 
the democrat party campaign committe has hired a person who advocates for the abolition of all police dept, prisons and ice. She also incites the burning of all police stations.
 
heard a speach from a prominant feminist, peta leader that explained that eating red meat promoted White Supremecy.

???????
 
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