I think you may be right. TU and OSU are in good positions to recruit within the state and OU has certainly raised the level of the sport in Oklahoma. Add that to the ASA complex in OKC (which is freaking amazing) and Oklahoma can be a hotbed for women's softball which would position TU well for growth and continued improvement.
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Broken Arrow just hosted the 16u Gold national tournament a few years back in 2014 & 2016 and I know more are coming. Oklahoma is becoming one of the biggest states for girl's softball. We have some amazing competitive teams at the 12 & up levels.
Several of the suburbs have good teams. Baseball and softball have always been pretty big in Oklahoma. Brothers and sisters basically doing the same thing and a nice match to football in the fall.
I expect that with all three state programs being pretty good and Arkansas to boot it will stay that way and feed on itself.
If the university will do it's part and avoid dumb actions like lec pointed out we can grow it. The biggest plus for me in Jerry O is that all of Tulsa sports are about to get a promotional bump. Guy will be on top of it all and promote it when just talking to people never mind any sports media who get a word with him. That's just work rate and successful linemen always have that, it's less common in Administrators.
That was the excuse. The real reason is that you had to pony up cash and we didn’t want to spend it. We gambled on getting a home game the following week, as I recall, and still didn’t rate a home game in the seeding.
You’ve wanted him gone for the last two years and now that you say he’s moving you’re saying that TU should be ashamed that they didn’t do enough to keep him. WTH? This is twilight zone stuff.
Based on your opinion over the past two years we should be throwing a party our crappy coach is finally gone. Now we can hire someone who can teach hitting, coach correctly, get to a super, get to OKC...that’s a pretty thorough synopsis of your thoughts in this thread alone.
So [banana]
This thread is suddenly the equivalent of talking to Rick James about whether he put his feet on the couch. “This coach is terrible. What do you mean? Come on I gotta little more sense than that. Of course this coach shouldn’t leave. I never said he was terrible.”
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He took the posts down becuz he realized what a clown & hypocrite they made him look like? Too bad I didn't quote him.
Because you aren't a fan of the program and/or an alumni you don't realize he asked for facilities improvements during the one time period in the entire history of the program, when the answer would undoubtedly have to be no.
Because you aren't a fan of the program and/or an alumni you don't realize he asked for facilities improvements during the one time period in the entire history of the program, when the answer would undoubtedly have to be no.
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So no. Got it.
Luckily my education included critical thinking and how to recognize a primary source.
He actually admitted he was the father, instead of a friend of the family. Am quite shocked at this revelation, not.
So now he's trashing John, and trashing the university. Lol Good luck to your daughter who left with a fine education.
Will be glad when this helicopter dad, so convinced he has all the answers, exits stage left. That should actually be happening soon. This will be unlike the multiple times he promised, and then no....
What a clown..total fraud...yep she got great education and will be in your record books for years to come...you're not a fan of the program..just a loser who can't argue the merits so you bash me...Am I the only one trashing the school..has your head been buried?? Did you know you lost major donors because the school went back on their promise to build indoor? Did you know that a major softball donor was lied to about his/her donation and it didnt go to softball as promised? Lots of issues going on at Tulsa..pull you dumb ass or head out of wherever it is and catch up moron...btw, ask my kid if I was a helicopter dad, she would laugh at your dumb ass...she did it all on her own without my help...
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Actually most of the people you're yelling at about this stuff are very aware and probably more in the know about those things than you are. With maybe the exception of the softball donor who put his money down and they used it elsewhere. You'd be surprised at how much a lot of the people on this board know about the inside dealings of TU in general.
The 2 big donors are huge...have given millions to the school...I really dont pretend to know the new President but it doesn't appear he is a sports guy...maybe Tulsa is in more trouble than I thought...regardless, the softball field is the worse the players play absent uconn..for a program that has been a consistent top 40 program that is unacceptable..I had differences with JB and still do but for the school to allow him to resign over their unwillingness to upgrade says alot about where the school is at financially imo..btw, once that gets out to travel coaches the recruiting will suffer...I may not know the inner workings like some but I guarantee I do understand the recruiting process and what kids are looking at today
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And little
You are conflicted man, who has proven his inside info to be little better than guessing. Your reactions to disagreement are mostly name calling and wait you'll see. Your predictions have been mostly incorrect and rarely based on objective evaluation.
This school is very small and for those with relationships still on campus it's fairly easy to keep up with, but for outsiders it's often opaque which is why you need to be careful about our local papers reporting for example.
You are conflicted man, who has proven his inside info to be little better than guessing. Your reactions to disagreement are mostly name calling and wait you'll see. Your predictions have been mostly incorrect and rarely based on objective evaluation.
This school is very small and for those with relationships still on campus it's fairly easy to keep up with, but for outsiders it's often opaque which is why you need to be careful about our local papers reporting for example.
The 2 big donors info came from someone who knows...Inside info such as this (John leaving) comes from people inside that are living it...I dont care to debate folks but where is the debate?? All I get is some (not you) trashing me...I know what he said to players as to why he is leaving..he was very straightforward..I read the letter...I am not conflicted at all, I respect the education that Tulsa provides, I have disagreed with the coach on certain things, I believe this administration doesn't support the softball program..fairly consistent
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Please don't start trying to cozy up now, you burned your bridges long ago. I doubt you as someone who knows and for good reason. Every season since your "friend's" daughter started playing you have been in here declaring inside knowledge that doesn't pan out. You have been here proclaiming how we will suck each year and even did so earlier in this thread on next season. You lack credibility and the window you are looking in through will always be tinted by your frustration that you have had such little control or influence on your girl's career.
Ahhh see that's more true to your form.
It's always funny to hear how much you don't care when replying anonymously to some text on a screen. You clearly care enough to be here arguing for your view.
As far as your daughter is concerned you might be surprised on how she feels inside compared to how she interacts with you or when defending you (which we both know has happened).
The team concept has proven much more successful than the individual. Your daughter had other options to go play, but chose to stay which says a lot more about her feeling regarding the coach and program than any diatribe you have made on this board. It also shows more steadfastness and commitment then you show on this board with your posts.
You fail to understand that holding the idea that Tulsa's coach and program suck is directly contradictory to we should be ashamed we lost our coach and are now doomed. That you post on a board to spread news you don't care about is also a high level of cognitive dissonance. You are quite literally conflicted.
Either he sucks as a coach and losing him is a good thing. Or he is a good coach and losing him is a bad thing. Make up your mind.
Second if she did tell that to another player, your daughter should have just left. As a coach I would have sent her packing. But again there is a slant to everything you say so I doubt that came about the way you are trying to make it look.
As a coach let me assure you, that you are the worst kind of parent to deal with, which is remarkable considering the kids are usually some of the best to work with.
Finally as far as intelligence goes, I do fine and have yet to claim to be the smartest person in the room.
You also seem to have a misunderstanding about what is actually happening at the University. Hint we don't exist to satisfy sports fans.
The university has several blemishes, currently after a lot of consideration I am not happy with the direction it is headed. The athletic issues aside. The University is leaving its roots and that is a problem. Other things are symptoms, including athletics right now. It's still mine and apparently your daughter's despite your rage, we'll take it from here, mistakes and all. Enjoy being a fan of whatever it is that you're a fan of.
It's unfortunate your daughter is who I have been thinking it is for a while. The picture you paint of her does not match what I have seen, you might think about that for a little while.
If your daughter felt that way she should have left. End of story. Which is why I would have sent her packing as a coach. Spin it however you want but staying where you are while undercutting it is not how you do it.
You're the worst kind of parent for a coach to deal with because you can't let go, because you reinforce the worse parts of the game, and laugh about it. So a coach spends a great deal of time trying to undo the the self destructive tendencies you helped create.
Just like you did in this response, you miss the point about what is happening and where priorities should be at. You tend to ignore what you can't admit. You have spent years on here making your daughter out to be the sort of player no one would want on their team. Blinded mostly by your need to be right and your insecurities. Luckily it's over now for us here on the board.
So have fun enjoy what ever it is you enjoy.
Are you really going nuts about 9 players in 4 years? Losing players in a division 1 school is quite common, especially if you aren’t on a full ride. They leave for all sorts of reasons - they hate the coach, get pregnant, don’t want to play anymore or just don’t get time, want to be closer to home etc... Really assine to harp on over a period.
Or the come on a partial and don’t make the grades to keep the other half of their aid.
Dang. How dare you produce more scenarios to call out this BS by softball dingleberry daddio. From what I recall, the softball facilities weren't all that bad when I was there. Granted, I was there in 2006. I dated a softball player for 1.5 years there and there wasn't a whole lot of bitching from the team then from what I recall.
