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  1. maverickfp

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    I hear the protestos are toting fully automatic weapons, building walls and extorting money from business and residents...

    Doesnt take long for the socialist experiment to go all Che Guevara...
     
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    I hear you’re blowing things out of proportion.
     
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    Sounds like a militia group.

    Difference:
    malitia compounds occupy private property.
    This one, the group invaded a city and occupies public land.
     
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    You mean like that conservative militia group in Eastern Oregon that did the same thing?
     
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    There are conservatives in Oregon?
     
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    Seattle is chill. Burning man goes to Occupy Wall Street. No guns, just movies and music and talk.

    How will you all do with the Donald next week? Lots of guns?
     
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    Uh. Yeah. Have you ever been to the eastern side of the state? It's a plateau that's basically farmland.
     
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    Only fly over.
     
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    How’s your warlord treating you?
     
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    Never thought I would see the day where we would have large group of citizens arguing among each other as to whether to allow police officers in their own precinct building. Oddly the mayor of Seattle (who they want gone) seems completely ok with the anarchist.
     
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    serve and protect?
     
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    I would say she is not lying. I’m glad she has the guts to speak honestly about the situation.

    I visited with a relative last night who has a business associate who lives in that neighborhood in Seattle. This guy describes himself as very liberal. He described things similarly to Topeke. “Just people reading poetry & making speeches “. I’m sure things can stay “chill “ for a few days or so. Eventually an absence of law and order will lead to chaos and anarchy. The only question is when that would happen, not if that would happen.

    My guess is the Seattle police will be back in charge of that precinct before things get out of hand.
     
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    BTW, I believe there will be good and needed police reform to come from the terrible murder of George Floyd, but police abandoning their precinct certainly isn’t the answer.
     
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    In all seriousness we should pray no one enters that zone. Those people in that “autonomous” zone have no idea that they have relinquished all of their civil rights & US citizenship. I feel bad for them, I really do. I pray no one that any of us on here knows enters that zone because once one does it is over for them - even if they leave they will still have relinquished their rights/citizenship & they will still be subject to arrest.

    Of course, there are exceptions when it comes to the (real, not fake) journalists that enter that area to show us what is really happening there (NOT those who enter to show us video edits to spin their agenda calling it a “peaceful block party” or promoting it as a “summer of love”) while risking their own safety.

    Though, I do wish those real journalists (unbiased/objective) wouldn’t enter these areas as we already have everything. We see it all, we know who is who & who is doing what. As soon as they leave that “CHAZ” (or guess now it’s the “chop?”) they will be arrested. NDAA might actually help, finally, though I entirely disagree with it. Thanks again, Obama for one more thing - it’s similar to how people were tricked by Bush admin Patriot Act - LOL another one of their weapons now being used against them. Lmao I’m halfway thinking out loud but it’s true & I’ve known it to be true for some time now.

    We shouldn’t just pray that no one any of us enters that zone, we should pray for those in that zone.

    I agree with what Huckabee said - instead of using the military just cut all the power & water to that area (well, Trump would still have to use the military to do that, actually) & tell them, “here’s your ‘autonomous zone,’ your ‘country,’ manage it ALL on your own.”

    That would definitely be insurrection act but they have declared themselves separate from the USA so let’s just give them what they want - they have no treaties nor trade agreements with the USA.
     
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    It’s essentially Occupy all over again. And many of the same people organizing and freeloading. And it will end the same.
     
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    No. We are arresting every fuccn protester in this b1tch!!! Do you want to know why the protesters who get too close will be arrested? Because that’s how the riff raff starts. We ain’t playin. TPD IS NOT FINNA PUT UK WIT Y’ALL’S NONSENSE! NOR YOUR RIFF RAFF!! TAKE IT BACK TO THE BUS IN WHICH YOU ARRIVED!!
     
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    Still “chill” in Seattle? It took a couple weeks, a couple murders, others shot. So the answer to Topeke is yes, anarchy.

    It’s amazing some people would actually expect removing law & order to be “chill”.
     
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    Only took the mayor’s neighbors waving around machine guns and a couple of dead kids for her to decide that maybe her re-election is in trouble. Blood on her hands.
     
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    Does that mean that Tulsa's in anarchy because there have been murders?
     
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    If you extrapolate the murder rate from CHOP’s population size to Tulsa’s population size, and then annualize it, it would be the equivalent of having 9,600 murders in Tulsa in one year, with an additional 19,200 other people being shot. (With a grand total of 0 arrests in connection with those crimes)

    If those stats were true in Tulsa, I think that could rightly be described as anarchy. But since we are orders of magnitude away from those type of numbers in Tulsa, whereas those are the actual numbers from CHOP, I think it’s very fair to characterize CHOP as anarchy, but not Tulsa.

    Stats
    CHOP Population: ~1,000 (could actually be lower)
    Murders: 2
    Total shootings: 6
    Timeframe: 1 month

    Tulsa Population: 400,000
     
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    How are you estimating the population of that zone, especially given the fact that the people occupying it aren't all residing there 24/7.

    Moreover, you're dealing with small numbers. You would be the type to report a 100 PERCENT INCREASE IN THE TOTAL NUMBER KILLED! When the number really just moved from 1 to 2, whereas in other cities it might mean moving from 400 to 800.
     
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    If that’s all you get out of the situation, you’re defense of Topeke makes sense.
    We’re discussing Topeke’s “chill” lawless chop/chaz zone Seattle, not Tulsa. However, pretending your argument made logical sense, here is that answer:

    If Tulsa averages 1 murder per square mile per week, yes. That would equal 200 Tulsa murders per week.

    *Just saw golden cane already caught the absurdity of your response. Aston, you keep digging, no matter how big the hole in your argument.
     
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    You do realize that's not the way that small sample sizes scale right?
     
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    You do realize the point I initially made & later defended is that a complete lack of law & order in a community will not work. It will eventually lead to anarchy. Talk of murders in Tulsa is irrelevant to that point. Talk of the Seattle chop zone being a failure is the relevant discussion point.
     
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    I don't agree with concepts of things such as defunding police, as I've heard it described, but I also haven't read up very fully on concepts such as this. So I'm not defending Aston's position. But comparing the anarchy in existence between a fully functioning police dept/patrol, in relation to recent statistics in the chop zone would seem to be one good place to start if defending or attacking the chop zone. Discussion of it being a failure or not is indeterminate in this brief a period, but those early statistics would seem to be one avenue to address where it might be headed.(if that could even be determined at this early of a stage)
     
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    Well done, Telegraph. Don’t show the full video to allow context (which doesn’t include the full context anyway as that woman started filming way too late for that anyway but the Telegraph still felt the need to edit it down,) just show a portion & then turn off the comments because you’re fake news, TELEGRAPH!

    I’ve been warning people for 2 years now. I saw this coming. Now we’re in it. Most “revolutions” is “civil wars” begin before the people even realize it. Well, we’re in one right now (civil war).

    We are going to Richmond, VA July 4 to offer peaceful separation but I warned everyone in our group that I could that we may not make it to July 4. Meaning most of us will be more worried about staying home to protect our families by then. I was right.
     
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    Of course, here’s the full video. This blacc family clearly tried to start something. The mother of this woman (who has the 15 y/o kid that the woman supposedly “bumped into” - I don’t believe that for a second) steps behind their car after calling them racist & ignorant TO TRY TO BE THE VICTIM OF A CRIME!!! DO YOU REALIZE WHAT YOU’VE DONE *Jim Carrey voice*

    Seriously tho this is what victimhood culture gets you. It’s sickening. Everyone who thinks it’s not going to happen in Tulsa, guess what? It is.

    https://www.tmz.com/2020/07/02/whit...mother-detroit-michigan-parking-lot-chipotle/

    The irony of this war, by the way, is that you’re just gonna have a bunch of everybody fighting a bunch of everybody, meaning all races included on both sides. It’s so stupid. Thanks, white liberals.
     
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    Even though this guy is a total cuck, he explains it well.

     
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    I spoke with a veteran yesterday. He’s a bit older than me but not by much. He agreed, “we’re in it.”

    Normal times I wouldn’t even tell you race, but yes, he was blacc. I have told y’all more times than I care to count that 90% of the ppl I am around are blacc.
     
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    More facts:

     
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    Saw an interview with a policeman who said the defund police people were planning a protest in his city.

    They called to requested police protection. ???
     
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    LOL WRONG LINK, GREAT SONG! Brings tears to my eyes for all my ppl lost to the streets.

    Here is the intended video.

     

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