hope all the zeros on the paycheck keep him warm during those long cold post-loss nights. Sometimes the grass isn’t greener.
Scott Frost
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I think he’ll get it turned around... it may just take a little longer than he’d like.
Nebraska won't have the patience it takes to let him get it turned around. All the players he needs to run what he wants to run are in Florida. Small, fast guys. Plus, something he had at UCF that he won't ever have at Nebraska is the chip on the shoulder of being the little guy and being disrespected. He actually had a better chance of winning a national championship at UCF than he does at Nebraska
They've got that game vs the Bethune-Cookman University Wildcats circled. LOL at FBS teams that have to hang their hat on an FCS game for a win and then crossing their fingers that they can get one or two FBS wins somewhere in the schedule.
I haven't watched enough Nebraska football this season to opine on their issues. Many seem to think the cupboards are bare in Lincoln and assume it will be a few years before progress is made. In the preseason, most talking heads (ESPN, media polls, etc.) did not think highly of Nebraska football. I understand wanting instant results, but really, hold off on the panic and see how the new coach does in year 3 or 4. If it seems like you aren't competitive with your peers in year 4... reevaluate the panic option.
I like the break from traditional coach speak... he isn't being mean, but I think he is being honest.
Nearly all head coaches are ultra competitive and want to win. But I can think of 35,000,000 reasons why Scott Frost will make it through this somehow, no matter what. His assistant coaches split another 2,000,000 or so reasons per year why Nebraska will work out better than UCF.
https://journalstar.com/comparing-s...ble_39c476a0-9838-5114-aeb5-fc6f5d0c9a63.html
I haven't watched enough Nebraska football this season to opine on their issues. Many seem to think the cupboards are bare in Lincoln and assume it will be a few years before progress is made. In the preseason, most talking heads (ESPN, media polls, etc.) did not think highly of Nebraska football. I understand wanting instant results, but really, hold off on the panic and see how the new coach does in year 3 or 4. If it seems like you aren't competitive with your peers in year 4... reevaluate the panic option.
https://bleacherreport.com/nebraska-cornhuskers-football
I like the break from traditional coach speak... he isn't being mean, but I think he is being honest.
Nearly all head coaches are ultra competitive and want to win. But I can think of 35,000,000 reasons why Scott Frost will make it through this somehow, no matter what. His assistant coaches split another 2,000,000 or so reasons per year why Nebraska will work out better than UCF.
https://journalstar.com/comparing-s...ble_39c476a0-9838-5114-aeb5-fc6f5d0c9a63.html
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He'll be fine. If he still has a losing record and no bowl by year 3? Then he should be let go. There should be a consistent improvement each year...unlike with Monty.
I think that was literally my exact quote about Steve Kragthorpe at Louisville.
He’s a reprehensible human being who deserves all the adversity that comes his way and more.
Wow do tell! I don’t know much about him, just thought he’d regret his decision to move.
I had a chance to watch a few Nebraska games this year and they are really close. They have a great young QB who is still learning but has all the tools you need to win. Their offense needs more playmaker and their secondary and LB‘s need work but I fully expect them to be top 25 next year.
I agree on the QB (Martinez?). They also have a couple of WRs (Stanley Morgan, Jr) who can play, but their OL is just terrible. I don't know if it's effort, lack of technique, or if they're just not very smart players, but they didn't handle a single blitz or stunt in the Colorado game. Their D is pretty lackluster and undisciplined as well. There were too many plays where the DBs has no idea what coverage they were in and the LBs were stuck with their eyes in the backfield like you'd expect from a 4th grader.
He had sex with a teammate’s (Lawrence Phillips) girlfriend. If that isn’t a mark on your character that reveals a questionable moral base that begins around age 5 and follows you through life, he hid in a locked bathroom and listened as Phillips beat the crap out of her and dragged her down her apartment steps by her hair. He’s one of the few people in this world that you show up to their funeral to make sure they are dead.
You gotta question his judgment too, messing around with Lawrence Phillips girl.
That’s the ultimate point. Not only is messing with a teammate’s girl terrible judgment, but he was QB1 at a Nat Champ school with 20,000 other girls to chose from. It’s not like TU where there’s about 20 girls to choose from in the top tier and half of them are passed around the team over four years. This girl was a volleyball player, but other than that, quite unremarkable. Frost never spoke to her again afterwards so apprarebtky he agreed with that assessment at the time as well.
He had to try to be the alpha male on the team and challenge Phillips regardless of the consequences. That was his only objective. Then he wimped out. I suspect that if he isn’t a sociopath, and many coaches are, he knows he’s a coward and tries to compensate.
He had to try to be the alpha male on the team and challenge Phillips regardless of the consequences. That was his only objective. Then he wimped out. I suspect that if he isn’t a sociopath, and many coaches are, he knows he’s a coward and tries to compensate.
They've allowed 4 fewer sacks in the same number of games as Tulsa... What does that mean for our line? Lol.
I clearly don't know what actually happened, but are these stories talking about the same incident?
More recent stories:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...96e-a172-3821bf941b84/?utm_term=.144ad2d63f14Washington Post 9/13/1995 said:
https://www.si.com/vault/1997/12/29...d-still-not-get-a-share-of-the-national-titleSports Illustrated December 1997 said:
More recent stories:
https://www.omaha.com/huskers/the-s...cle_d23a0bb0-ba7f-11e7-85a1-07e004b8e998.html
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/spo...awrence-phillips-mike-bianchi-0824-story.html
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Everything except him fighting off Phillips is captured and there was nothing former about that relationship. Their relationship was volatile and both had been warned to stay away from each other but they continued to fight, break up, then contact one another shortly thereafter. He knew Phillips would be upset about him being with her and that’s exactly what he did. She’s given interviews where she stated he hid in the bathroom and locked the door
You got anything to back that up?
Contemporous sources like the one cited?
As I recall this was not an on and off relationship. Phillips didn't know how to take no for an answer. This "relationship" and his behavior was the beginning of the end. My memory is pretty good on these things and Phillips was pretty much ostercized from the team afterwards. Frost claimed Phillips was nuts (he was) and the tumble to prision came pretty quick.
My understanding was that Frost and Phillips got into it and Phillips got the handcuffs over the incident.
So unless you have some proof otherwise you should probably ease up on spewing that nonsense.
It’s not hard to find contemporary accounts of the incident online, not the revisionist history lately. If you want to know more about what happened besides what you think you might want remember, read them, her lawsuit against Phillips, and the police report. Osborne told all three of them to stay away from each other and they ignored it. She lost her scholarship for breaking that rule because of repeated issues with him and friction on her own team. IIRC they later gave it back to her. On the night in question, they both hid in the bathroom. Phillips pulled her out, Frost stayed in the bathroom and locked the door. After some punches and shoving, he pulled her out into the outside hallway by her hair where a bystander intervened as Phillips drug her down the steps toward the parking lot. Frost then appeared from the bathroom and helped the bystander calm her down and helped end the disagreement by standing between her and Phillips until Phillips left. It says a lot that Frost refuses to speak publicly about what he did that night ... and what he failed to do. Nor will the University respond to inquiries about it. Osborne disciplined Frost after the incident. Draw your own conclusions. Or pop some popcorn and watch the 30 for 30 on showtime.
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Martinez bails the line out by scrambling but it's hard to run your playbook and keep a rhythm if your QB is running for his life every play. Our tackles are bad, we've all noticed it and mentioned it. Nebraska's line has bigger problems actually as there doesn't seem to be any cohesion or understanding of what they're supposed to do. Our line knows what to do but a couple of the players just can't do it.
I'll take that as a no.
Funny she got that scholarship back, Frost has never had any issues like that again and Phillips is a multi felon with well known violent tendencies.
But I'm sure accusations in a law suit against the school for not providing a safe enviorment are straight forward and correct.
She didnt sue the school. She sued him after he got his NFL money for a series of incidents stretching back over several years, including incidents she admitted she instigated. She sued him for assault, battery, false imprisonment, intentional inflict of emotional distress and other common law torts, not just the hair throw down the steps onto her forehead incident. The case was settled shortly after it was filed. She got her scholarship back because of the bad optics involved, not because she repeatedly ignored the instructions of her parents, the athletic director, her coach, and the wishes of her teammates to stay the eff away from the guy.
Im not suggesting Phillips was not to blame. He was a deeply troubled young man who clearly suffered from developmental disruption that manifested itself in violence later in life. Decades of therapy probably would not have helped him, and he likely knew it, so he killed himself. Its tragic, but not unexpected or even excusable.
What I am stating is the obvious. Frost should have intervened and at least placed himself in front of the blows to spare her, if not do his best to protect himself, or even subdue Phillips. He chose not to. He waited until it was basically over and someone else had time to show up after they heard her screaming. Then he had a bit part in breaking it up after the damage was done.
My lack of willingness to jump when you say so does not change facts. Look it up yourself if you have a problem with it. Be sure to give me a source that isnt n the last five years or a media outlet that regularly covers where he played or coached football and is more concerned about access to the program than fact checking. You won't find any statement from Scott Frost that says he "got into it", as you put it, with Phillips because that simply isnt true and Frost won't tell you what he did because he doesnt want right thinking people to call BS on his behavior. She has said in taped interviews he hid in the bathroom. The guy who actually intervened said that Frost intervened late, had a bit part, and may have injured her himself during the incident. He wants to keep manipulating public opinion, such as you, and making millions. The lawsuit is/was out there on the web. Ive read it even though it is technically under seal. You can find it if you want. Your source so far is your own memory of news reporting of a small event twenty years ago.
Im not suggesting Phillips was not to blame. He was a deeply troubled young man who clearly suffered from developmental disruption that manifested itself in violence later in life. Decades of therapy probably would not have helped him, and he likely knew it, so he killed himself. Its tragic, but not unexpected or even excusable.
What I am stating is the obvious. Frost should have intervened and at least placed himself in front of the blows to spare her, if not do his best to protect himself, or even subdue Phillips. He chose not to. He waited until it was basically over and someone else had time to show up after they heard her screaming. Then he had a bit part in breaking it up after the damage was done.
My lack of willingness to jump when you say so does not change facts. Look it up yourself if you have a problem with it. Be sure to give me a source that isnt n the last five years or a media outlet that regularly covers where he played or coached football and is more concerned about access to the program than fact checking. You won't find any statement from Scott Frost that says he "got into it", as you put it, with Phillips because that simply isnt true and Frost won't tell you what he did because he doesnt want right thinking people to call BS on his behavior. She has said in taped interviews he hid in the bathroom. The guy who actually intervened said that Frost intervened late, had a bit part, and may have injured her himself during the incident. He wants to keep manipulating public opinion, such as you, and making millions. The lawsuit is/was out there on the web. Ive read it even though it is technically under seal. You can find it if you want. Your source so far is your own memory of news reporting of a small event twenty years ago.
We really need to start winning games...
I remember the accusations against Phillips but I never heard the story about Frost's involvement in the entire thing. Frost has (probably) grown up and matured a bit. Phillips never got the counseling he needed in high school to get past crap like this. I remember the backlash the Rams faced when they drafted him and that was at a time when the #MeToo movement was not prevalent. Phillips never even sniffs the NFL if the NFL had taken the hard line domestic abuse stance then that it has now (since the Ray Rice video was released).
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