I never come to Crossfire. No offense to everyone posting here, but this thread is pointless. Violence has happened on both sides....it needs to stop. The problem with anti- or pro-abortion related violence in particular is that it is hard to know how many of the attacks are being done by people trying to make the other side look bad. I bet it is a real factor.
That is one of the points of this thread.
The acts and mentions of violence is relatively new to the pro choice side, and it is amongst a sea change in the law. The violence on the pro choice side will subside. How much it will subside is another issue. That's why some people become irritated when it gets mentioned, because it pales in comparison to the pro life side's history of violence. History is the key word. Pro choice's history,(of violence) for all intents and purposes, has just started.
Pro choice violence might pale in comparison to the pro life violence that has already happened. Maybe it will put pro life violence in a tiny box, in comparison to future pro choice violence. We just don't know. But mentioning it blow by blow
right now, isn't a terribly valid act towards the pro choice peaceful advocates on here.
Of course there is going to be a lot of it at the moment. I guarantee you that if the Supreme Court reversed this decision in a couple of years, the pro choice violence for a limited period of time would increase exponentially. I'm talking about the level of violence from what it was before this law change. That is from where it would increase exponentially on a reversal.
You should expect a negative reaction when mentioning it. What would be your response if someone from the other side tried to do the same.
And if discussions like this are pointless, then why say anything about it to anyone, ever. If you think that someone's mind is made up about every aspect of the issue. why talk about it at all, no matter who the audience is, or where the conversation happens. You would only talk about it with your children, in order to make their mind up, through reasoning, rebellion, or agreement.
Why have debates in congress about the laws related to this issue. Might as well just vote. These conversations make small changes in a few people's minds. Change happens in
tiny increments. But changes being slow to happen with someone is no reason to give up on change. Maybe this conversation changes nobody's mind on anything. But the next one might.
That is a pretty defeatist shut down attitude. It takes generations for considerable change to happen. According to that attitude we might as well shut down the law schools, the philosophy and religion depts, political think tanks, and any political forums like this one. How is it that you think change happens. Does it stop in college, or high school? That is a pessimistic viewpoint.
We know you feel this way Henry K..(that debates in crossfire are pointless) No need to mention it every other time you come over here. And I say this not with any ill will towards your viewpoint, it is simply a comment on that type of view, no matter who it comes from.