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Looks like we ended up with 12 scholarship players It was good we saved one for next year. With 13 you always have some kids who complain about playing time and with the portal they are gone anyway. I think the portal killed the redshirt too.
I fundamentally disagree that not filling your roster is ever a good idea. Every roll of the dice increases the expected value that you are going to find a good player. One more player just means one more kid who wants playtime and puts pressure on the others to produce.
I agree, but in today's environment of the portal, it's just as important to not tell a kid to move on and yank his scholarship. That tends to burn bridges if they're putting in the work and you want to make space for an different player. It's the devil either way you look at it.
I am shocked you disagree 😂. Just maybe Konkol can use that extra scholarship next year for a better player than simply “filling the roster” as you recommend.
You act like it's likely that a roster filler will retain their roster spot without showing some performance.
In the age of free transfers and the NIL why do we need to sugarcoat a kid's opportunity to be a roster filler?
If they come in and work hard, they will get at least year's worth of college paid for and at least some good experience and a good recommendation from our staff should they be asked to go somewhere else in favor of a player that aligns more closely with our longterm goals.
Best case... you end up with a kid like Ron Baker at WSU. Worst case you end up with a Keondre Dew. Either way.... you still were able to roll the dice and it cost you next to nothing.
The only exception I would have to this line of thought might be if NCAA graduation rates were hampering the program and you couldn't afford to cut ties as easily as you'd like to. I'm not sure how graduation rates even work anymore with the free transfer rule though.
Barring the graduation rate issue, I would be looking at the best D1 eligible kid who's going to D2 or walking on at xyz school or whatever. Which is ultimately unfortunate because it means that I wasn't able to find a kid who aligned to my long term plan THIS season which should be my fault, even in a short recruiting window.
This is his first season here, and he had limited time to fill scholarships. I doubt he has a problem with filling that thirteenth scholarship after this year. If he does, then you can bitch. As usual you are hard on him from the start, fore he even plays a game with the GH.
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To be fair.... yes, I did, but the problem I had was that after years of recruiting cycles we weren't filling our rosters with actual targets and we were taking these scholarship fliers on fringe D1 / Walk On caliber kids beyond what we would need just to keep our grades up.
I wouldn't mind it as much for Konkol. As G$$$ said, yes Konkol had a short recruiting cycle.... but I've seen other coaches who have been able to fill their rosters with actual contributors given short turn arounds, especially given that he retained the majority of his recruiting staff. It's not a huge gripe that I have for Konkol not filling the spot with someone who could contribute long term this year... but it's a more sizeable gripe that we left the spot empty completely.
Right....but it becomes a gripe when you fill a spot, just to fill a spot, with a guy who doesn't pan out but isn't enough motivated to move on because he likes getting a free high quality education. Then you're stuck with him a few years.
Konkol made no bones about it....He wanted a significant 'big' with
the open scholarship.....When he failed to get one in the '22 class, he
set out to make it a priority to get one in '23.....So far, almost their
whole recruiting effort has been in pursuit of a quality 'big'......
Remember, before any attrition, every one (12) on scholarship has
at least two years of eligibility left.....Technically, this is the only
scholarship known to be open.....However, as Bill Self (and others)
have said, "you always make room for a very promising player"...
...Yeah, we should have 1 or 2 spots miraculously appear b4 it's all over with.However, as Bill Self (and others)
have said, "you always make room for a very promising player"...
I don't think anyone should be stuck with a player for any amount of time considering today's environment. The players shouldn't get all of the concessions. If they want free transfers, then they shouldn't expect guaranteed employment.
Free transfer & NIL ought to give the coach the right to tell them we won't be needing your services here any longer. Although there aren't too many players if told they won't see a minute of court time ever, who would stay anyway.
If they really want to get rid of the guy...
They'll tell him you won't see much of practice from anywhere but the bench.
Excellent point. If they did not use it on a big man we would be stuck without a big man for a few years barring running players off.Konkol made no bones about it....He wanted a significant 'big' with
the open scholarship.....When he failed to get one in the '22 class, he
set out to make it a priority to get one in '23.....So far, almost their
whole recruiting effort has been in pursuit of a quality 'big'......
Remember, before any attrition, every one (12) on scholarship has
at least two years of eligibility left.....Technically, this is the only
scholarship known to be open.....However, as Bill Self (and others)
have said, "you always make room for a very promising player"...
Here's another scenario: They fill the spot with whoever is left over, the guy is career-ending injured in practice, so he keeps the scholly to finish his free education. Can't run him off then....
But in those cases, the scholarship doesn't count against our limit. I knew a guy from my TU days who took a helmet to the kidney as a freshman and had to have the organ removed. He couldn't play anymore but stayed at TU and got his degree.
Hhmmm, well planned out, Tania Harding.
I know this isn't a popular opinion, but I think Konkol DID do that with some of the guys. But there's only so many of those guys to have on your roster at any time.
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