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You don't have to be an engineer/programmer/developer to understand conceptually how these entities (blockchain/cybersecurity/cryptocurrency/AI/Cloud Computing/Data Analytics) affect our society. Through good advisors, one can make good decisions about these areas of tech, especially with abilities and understanding of tech in other more basic areas.

The implications of what you are saying seems to be that a president has to be an expert on everything to function.
 
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Looks like a SNL sketch. Are we ready to start talking about Kamala ? Probably time


He could have been acknowledging people around the stage, don't know with that camera 📷 angle and/or not having been there to hear the audible stuff going on at the time. But it's a good way to start rumors. Rumors are the best.
 

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Agree that it a national disgrace that the last election was between two near octogenarians, but blaming Biden for being elected and doing a credible job at his age says more about us than him.

To change the subject slightly, it seems that both Trump and Putin are completely motivated to stay in power because those offices protect them from penalties and punishments from criminal acts. Putin, now a war criminal and leader of a nearly defeated military, really has little choice but to go all in. Although win or lose with the Ukraine, it's hard to see he comes out better than he went in. Putin likely understands that which makes him even more willing to act out of desperation if things go badly for him. As we saw in the Balkans, only losers are tried for war crimes.
 

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You don't have to be an engineer/programmer/developer to understand conceptually how these entities (blockchain/cybersecurity/cryptocurrency/AI/Cloud Computing/Data Analytics) affect our society. Through good advisors, one can make good decisions about these areas of tech, especially with abilities and understanding of tech in other more basic areas.

The implications of what you are saying seems to be that a president has to be an expert on everything to function.
Presidents tend to be elected as folks who at least have experience in one specific field woth good decision making skills and sufficient broad understanding in others. For most that means policy / lawmaking. For others it’s the Business Economy (Hoover, Reagan, Trump, Bush 2.0) for some others it was actual military operation (like Eisenhower, Hays, Grant, TR)

Thus far we’ve had few presidents who had distinct knowledge or vision into tech… and the ones who have, have tended to be the youngest… (Kennedy, Carter, Obama… maybe Clinton a bit)

I understand that they don’t need to be experts in literally every single field, but having a more defined and applicable knowledgebase certainly helps executives have perspective on technology policy development and adoption.

I sincerely doubt that Trump or Biden have any level of understanding the broad implications that AI can have for the global society both good and bad... there advisors can guide them, but that means they’re only as good as their advisors’ ability to convey the message and their ability to absorb the information. It doesn’t seem like either of them are especially capable of absorption of extremely complex technological ideas.
 
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Okay, first, the Ukraine president needs to understand, all partisanship aside, that Biden should not go there. First, it is a bad security decision. He would be in danger.

Second, we could also have Kamala as our president.

Third, that job is better performed by the Secretary of State.

Biden was better and safer by doing what he did yesterday. Playing with the Easter Bunny.
 

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Okay, first, the Ukraine president needs to understand, all partisanship aside, that Biden should not go there. First, it is a bad security decision. He would be in danger.

Second, we could also have Kamala as our president.

Third, that job is better performed by the Secretary of State.

Biden was better and safer by doing what he did yesterday. Playing with the Easter Bunny.
Send them and the whole cabinet on an infrastructure tour of Mariupol...
 

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Presidents tend to be elected as folks who at least have experience in one specific field woth good decision making skills and sufficient broad understanding in others. For most that means policy / lawmaking. For others it’s the Business Economy (Hoover, Reagan, Trump, Bush 2.0) for some others it was actual military operation (like Eisenhower, Hays, Grant, TR)

Thus far we’ve had few presidents who had distinct knowledge or vision into tech… and the ones who have, have tended to be the youngest… (Kennedy, Carter, Obama… maybe Clinton a bit)

I understand that they don’t need to be experts in literally every single field, but having a more defined and applicable knowledgebase certainly helps executives have perspective on technology policy development and adoption.

I sincerely doubt that Trump or Biden have any level of understanding the broad implications that AI can have for the global society both good and bad... there advisors can guide them, but that means they’re only as good as their advisors’ ability to convey the message and their ability to absorb the information. It doesn’t seem like either of them are especially capable of absorption of extremely complex technological ideas.
Picking good advisors and not second guessing them is key. Trump's ego is so controlling that he can't consider that he doesn't know more than anyone in the room. That undermines his ability to engage good advisors; he's stuck with sycophants instead of real experts. For example, at the end of his 'reign' no good attorney would work for him, so he stuck with a bunch of clowns. Wall Street figured him out a decade ago which is why he had to go to Russia and 4th rate lenders for financing.
 

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Picking good advisors and not second guessing them is key. Trump's ego is so controlling that he can't consider that he doesn't know more than anyone in the room. That undermines his ability to engage good advisors; he's stuck with sycophants instead of real experts. For example, at the end of his 'reign' no good attorney would work for him, so he stuck with a bunch of clowns. Wall Street figured him out a decade ago which is why he had to go to Russia and 4th rate lenders for financing.
He never got rid of Rudolpho Guliani. Hmmmm.
 

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Picking good advisors and not second guessing them is key. Trump's ego is so controlling that he can't consider that he doesn't know more than anyone in the room. That undermines his ability to engage good advisors; he's stuck with sycophants instead of real experts. For example, at the end of his 'reign' no good attorney would work for him, so he stuck with a bunch of clowns. Wall Street figured him out a decade ago which is why he had to go to Russia and 4th rate lenders for financing.
Suppose it’s a plus to lack to cognitive ability to second guess one’s advisors :)
 

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I'll take Joe's dementia with decent advisors running the White House over Kush and Ivanka any day.
 
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Picking good advisors and not second guessing them is key. Trump's ego is so controlling that he can't consider that he doesn't know more than anyone in the room. That undermines his ability to engage good advisors; he's stuck with sycophants instead of real experts. For example, at the end of his 'reign' no good attorney would work for him, so he stuck with a bunch of clowns. Wall Street figured him out a decade ago which is why he had to go to Russia and 4th rate lenders for financing.
What are you going to talk about when Trump is not there? The two super liberals on this board vow to keep Trump alive in memory.
 

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What are you going to talk about when Trump is not there? The two super liberals on this board vow to keep Trump alive in memory.
I miss the days when GWB was the root of all evil...
 

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What are you going to talk about when Trump is not there? The two super liberals on this board vow to keep Trump alive in memory.
All you got when you can’t talk about the current President.
 

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I'm making a list of the United States Presidents who would be pushed around by a staff member in a Bunny Suit. If you can't hold your own with your staff, how do you plan to deal with Putin?
 
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I'm making a list of the United States Presidents who would be pushed around by a staff member in a Bunny Suit. If you can't hold your own with your staff, how do you plan to deal with Putin?
I loved it when Evita told him to "wave" at the crowd..
 

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I'm making a list of the United States Presidents who would be pushed around by a staff member in a Bunny Suit. If you can't hold your own with your staff, how do you plan to deal with Putin?
Franklin Delano Roosevelt. He did a pretty good job standing up to Hitler and Tojo event though he could barely stand at all.
 

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They didn’t for Trump when he talked about things completely off topic.
Did you not listen to the clip? Biden wasn’t talking about things off topic. He believes Title 42 relates to the mask mandate. His cognitive ability is that far gone at this point
 
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What are you going to talk about when Trump is not there? The two super liberals on this board vow to keep Trump alive in memory.
Because the things you complain about are so ironic considering Trump did all of it first and to a much worse degree.

And you weren’t complaining about it incessantly back then.
 
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Because the things you complain about are so ironic considering Trump did all of it first and to a much worse degree.

And you weren’t complaining about it incessantly back then.
We didnt need to... you and WATU's constant catterwalling created enough noise for all of us..
 

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Franklin Delano Roosevelt. He did a pretty good job standing up to Hitler and Tojo event though he could barely stand at all.
Wake up. FDR wasn't senile. He had major health problems. He was an excellent war president.. And he had people like Marshall and Eisenhower. No bunny ever pushed him around, you are really reaching on this one. There is a difference in being pushed around because you are in a wheelchair and being pushed around being pushed around because you are likely to show your lack of ability.

You love to talk history, but you act stupid when you compare Biden to FDR.
 
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I'll take Joe's dementia with decent advisors running the White House over Kush and Ivanka any day.
Don't forget corruption. How about the crickets when it comes to the Saudi crown prince 'investing' a cool $2B in Kusher's leveraged buy out start up, an investment the prince's own advisors tried to veto because Kushner was not qualified to manage the venture and the Saudis were taking all the risk. Payback:

"Mr. Kushner played a leading role inside the Trump administration defending Crown Prince Mohammed after U.S. intelligence agencies concluded that he had approved the 2018 killing and dismemberment of Jamal Khashoggi,"

"Mr. Kushner had also helped broker $110 billion in weapons sales to Saudi Arabia over 10 years. He helped protect those and other weapons deals from congressional outrage over the murder of Mr. Khashoggi and the humanitarian catastrophe created by the Saudi-led military intervention in Yemen."
 
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I’ll see your Kushner and raise you a Hunter Biden. You know it’s ok to call them both out :). Neither have anything to do with Biden’s cognitive ability btw or his performance as Pres. Which is the subject of this thread. Distract Distract. Shift the conversation.

Now back to whether Joe has the mental ability to run the country or was that one bad ass Easter 🐰?
 

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I’ll see your Kushner and raise you a Hunter Biden. You know it’s ok to call them both out :). Neither have anything to do with Biden’s cognitive ability btw or his performance as Pres. Which is the subject of this thread. Distract Distract. Shift the conversation.

Now back to whether Joe has the mental ability to run the country or was that one bad ass Easter 🐰?
Hunter Biden isn't in a senior White House position. I don't care at all about Hunter Biden.
 
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Wake up. FDR wasn't senile. He had major health problems. He was an excellent war president.. And he had people like Marshall and Eisenhower. No bunny ever pushed him around, you are really reaching on this one. There is a difference in being pushed around because you are in a wheelchair and being pushed around being pushed around because you are likely to show your lack of ability.

You love to talk history, but you act stupid when you compare Biden to FDR.
I was making a joke, that clearly went right over your head. Biden is just about as senile now as Reagan was towards the end of his presidency.
 

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Not even close. Senile is one thing, but Reagan's Alzheimers was another. A better comparison might between Biden and Trump. Trump's mental fitness led to questions not only about old age but also mental illness by legions of psychiatrists and psychologists.

It is a shame that at meetings of world leaders, US presidents are the oldest of the group photos. Are there no qualified 40 and 50 year olds in the US? Other countries seem to be able to come up with leaders from those age groups.
 

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That’s the Biden open mouth insert foot that I knew we would see. I didn’t want him… but at least he’s not out on the campaign trail calling Boebert a whore or something. Had the personalities been reversed between I last two, I wouldn’t have put it past him.
 

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Somebody should send him a postcard of these.
(We could see if Shon wants to give him an early birthday present.)


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