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Tell me how 5k a game is going to bring in more money as a 6th home game over a good 'ole fashion but whoppin' as a big school's early season warm up or late season "rest" game? That is why we are playing Ohio State. Any OU or OSU home games we get are just cheap recruiting trips for them.
Independent in football and a place in the Mo Valley in other sports might be the way for Tulsa like it was a few decades ago If we have learned ANYTHING since 1980 Tulsa basketball is all about the coach, not the conference, so get back to the stepping stone status that got us one breath away from the Final Four 20 years ago.
This is predicated on Tulsa being around as a university in 5 to 10 years. Many may not like to hear that real possibility, but that is the reality that will drive sports decisions going forward. Money is why we STILL have a football head coach no one wanted and STILL have a mediocre basketball coach. It will take another "Miracle on 11th" to keep this drowning castaway afloat.
This is way, way too negative.
Recognizing coaching stupidity is one thing but bad mouthing everything about the university is too much.
Recognizing coaching stupidity is one thing but bad mouthing everything about the university is too much.
Substitute Mo Valley with Summit League and you’ve got a more likely scenario.
With the rumor that Memphis & Boise State are now being considered by the RIG12 the AAC will be down to 7 football members meaning we would have to go out & find 5 new members or split-up and merge with other conferences. Sun Belt is trying to poach our leftovers which I think is a possible future (not happy about it but) or maybe we could try to join the MWC which I'd rather see. No really good choices out there but going independent is just not viable.
Your predication that the university might fold in 5-10 years is not going to happen. They have an incredibly large endowment. They fixed their financial problems as well as their accreditation problems.
The changes the university made to it's curriculum bother some people, myself included. But many of these changes ensure that the school won't shut down. For people bothered by those changes, it is not for fear of it closing, but fear that the institution will be lessor in it's mission.
They still do. In 2020 it was reported as still being over 1 billion. This was after going through the energy crash, and all the bad investments and loans that they had to reaarange.
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TU now receives 7 million per year from ESPN…that is gone if you go independent.
Won't matter by then cause we'll already be back in a power conference and we have other donors as well.
Same way Ok State is still managing without T.Boone Pickens.
No, it is the Big12 inviting you out of desperation to save the conference. If they though Houston brought anything substantial they would have invited you when A&M, Missouri, Colorado and Nebraska left but instead they decided on a tiny school in Ft. Worth and geographically isolated West Virginia. Taking you now is grasping for the line as they are trying to not sink. You aren't going to bring the money that Texas brought, Hell the four additions aren't going to bring that money.
If Houston was such a worthy addition it would have happened long ago.
Is OK A&M managing without Pickens? Questionable, which is why they are concerned at the revenue drop with the loss of Oklahoma and Texas from the Big 12. Also, they are concerned with the addition of schools like yours that don’t add anything to their conference but an attempt to share their shrinking conference revenue with you. Think that will last long, Kitty? You’ll be looking for another conference when OSU, KU and others leave the Big whatever conference.
Tulsa is a real university with a small alumni base
Coog High is well the name says it all
Coog High is well the name says it all
Just let it go man. It's apples and oranges. Tulsa has never been "competing" with Houston's football path to P5. We're a tiny school in a town that's apathetic to any football except high school football and OU. We were a dominant program in the 1920s through the 1960s before TV markets were a thing. I live in Texas, I don't get why you're so blindly high on UH... At least show some objectivity... Nobody talks about TCU or SMU on sports radio in the metroplex, it's always UT / A&M and the Cowboys. I'm sure in Houston it's the same thing except add the Texans to the mix. Whether you like it or not (or it blunts your ego maybe?) Jerandlaur is right, the Big 12 didn't give Houston an invitation a few years ago when you guys beat OU and were flying high with your gay kissy face coach. They didn't want you then, they're trying to preserve their conference and "power" status, we'll see what happens. Nobody knows... Tulsa isn't going to be playing for a national championship in my lifetime, nor will Houston. Stop having a pissing contest on the deck of the Titanic...
"Power conference" that won't be any stronger than the AAC.
It'd be nice if you were able to calm your tits on the homophobia. Tom Herman isn't gay, and he's secure in that. Being insecure in your sexual orientation is not the best modus operandi.
You obviously haven't been in Europe for very long, or at all.
The major reason for adding teams to the Irate8 is to preserve the conference and collect what will likely be in the neighborhood of 200million from the buyouts. That split between the 8 gives them a few years to pad things and see how things play out. They just needed placeholders, and with the exception of BYU, that’s what they’re getting.
It’s all luck of the draw that happened 40+ years ago. If TU had been in the right place at the right time (as in following OSU to their new conference), TU would look very different today… probably VERY similar to TCU or Baylor in regard to support, facilities, and recognition. There are many other schools who are riding the coattails of their big brothers in conference and reaping the rewards ($$$), but for those of us who weren’t dealt a winning hand 50 years ago, I’d say TU has done so much with a lot less than our counterparts in conference.
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So we would become the "Little East"?? We actually are better off if we move the geography west....The
MWC plus Any thing that would not be very far East of the Ol' Mississippi would actually make more
sense.....UAB I like...UTSA is in a large (and rapidly growing) media market....Their future looks good.....
The situation right now may not be the very best......Pretty Slim Pickins"!
Coog high has never been considered a higher education gem. They are prioritizing athletics over education which Is not a good long term strategy.
also, joining a disintegrating conference that will probably lose another 3 of the original members in the next couple of years seems foolish, but Cooging it at the university level is always the strategy these morons use.
also, joining a disintegrating conference that will probably lose another 3 of the original members in the next couple of years seems foolish, but Cooging it at the university level is always the strategy these morons use.
Of course not. Houston did exactly what we would have done.
I think you are correct but part of me says the financial analysis might have persuaded TU to take a wait and see approach. Buyout of AAC obligations, entry fee to B12 vs wait and see if after next round of B12 school losses result in the merger of remainders and AAC.
This right here and the fact that unlike TU, coog high has been brown nosing the big 12 for quite a while. It’s a combination of the big 12 is desperate and them just giving in to the nagging wife (coog high)
Where are these two going to go? I can’t see another conference inviting either, although OSU football could have something to offer someone I guess. Kansas is stuck where they’re at.
Kansas and Iowa St will eventually move to the B1G. WVa will move to the ACC. The PAC12/B1G/ACC alliance will destroy the Big XII as an entity because 1) they can and 2) the money that gets redistributed to the other 4 conferences after the demise of the Big XII will be $10M for each school in those conferences. And ESPN is going to make it worth their effort to kill the conference as well as do everything they can to destroy Fox's college football product.
Red D Coog
Tulsa will be in a conference with Houston eventually its just a matter of time.
OSU, Tech, Baylor and TCU will not be in the B-12 a few years from now.
NO worries Bro.
Good Luck on Friday!!!
GO TU!!!
Tulsa will be in a conference with Houston eventually its just a matter of time.
OSU, Tech, Baylor and TCU will not be in the B-12 a few years from now.
NO worries Bro.
Good Luck on Friday!!!
GO TU!!!
And? Houston High has 46,000 students and Tulsa has 4,000, was that supposed to sting? I'm surprised that Tulsa is still playing FBS. The difference between you and me is that I didn't peak in undergrad and my ego isn't wrapped up in a football team. I have no need to go on someone else's board and brag that my team was the 8th choice to join a dying conference. Have fun. I don't give a
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