NCAA addressed FBI Report

[lawpoke87]

...and their response is exactly what I expected:

- eliminate one and done. High school seniors eligible for NBA

- allow a player who isn’t drafted to re-enter school

- lifetime ban for coaches who break rules

Basically...we’re taking major steps to restore the integrity of the sport. Change the rules and punish a few assistant coaches. Anyone still believe that the NCAA is going to come down hard on the blue bloods for breaking the rules?

 

[JesseTU]

Hell no. Everyone knows it isn't the fault of coaches, schools, and players for chasing dollars by breaking rules. It's clearly the rules fault. So we must punish the rules!

Unless we catch SMU, then them too. Or any other "little guy" program for that matter.

(incidentally, I agree with basics of the proposed rule changes)

 

[Chris Harmon]

Here is the document: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4445900-Commission-on-College-Basketball-Report-and.html

 

[lawpoke87]

That has quite a bit more teeth regarding institutions and infractions than was first reported this am.

 

[TU_BLA]

I particularly like that they do not recommend changing the current transfer rule of having to sit out for a year and back it up with graduation stats.

Also, under their recommendations, Bruce Pearl would never be able to coach again and Auburn would be facing a 5-year post season ban right now.

And I almost see a knife jab at Baylor, Michigan State, Penn State, etc. in this sentence: "For too long, college presidents and administrators have not been viewed as accountable for the conduct of their athletics programs. That will have to change."

Oh, and there's a jab at North Carolina too: "Finally, among other substantive rules changes, the Commission recommends that the NCAA revise and clarify its role in addressing academic fraud or misconduct by member institutions and make application of those rules
consistent. The NCAA must have jurisdiction to address academic fraud and
misconduct to the extent it affects student-athletes’ eligibility. Member institutions
cannot be permitted to defend a fraud or misconduct case on the ground that all
students, not just athletes, were permitted to “benefit” from that fraud or
misconduct. Coaches, athletic directors and university presidents must be held
accountable for academic fraud about which they knew or should have known.
The standards and punishment for academic fraud must be clarified and then
enforced consistently."

And there's quite a substantial hammering of AAU programs. While I knew there were some former high profile players on the committee (Grant Hill, David Robinson), there are also some presidents, ADs, former coaches, and of course Condoleeza Rice. There's a lot of different experiences and opinions and stakeholders. These are pretty bold recommendations...things I wouldn't have expected from Notre Dame and Ohio State (but then again, hammering UNC's academic fraud and Michigan State's compliance/cover-up of the Larry Nassar situation) would benefit those two schools if the NCAA had more teeth.

It will be interesting how quickly, if at all, any of these get put in place and how certain programs' recruiting changes almost immediately.

 

[TU 1978]

So we need to see 5 year postseason bans for Arizona, OSU, Memphis, UH, Louisville, and Kentucky - at the very least.

 

[TU_BLA]

So we need to see 5 year postseason bans for Arizona, OSU, Memphis, UH, Louisville, and Kentucky - at the very least.

In this latest round, because there seems to be enough evidence supporting it, COMBINED with Hooker-Gate, Louisville seems to be that candidate for a 5 year ban. Arizona, maybe, if it is ever proven that Miller acknowledged that payment was going to occur to get the kid to go to Arizona. If the NCAA and its members approve harsher penalties, then maybe Auburn gets hammered because they hired Bruce Pearl knowing he had skeletons in the closet. I don't think OSU, Houston, or Kentucky get nicked this time around with 5 years, but if the NCAA wanted to send a message, then any of the schools that had assistants take money or kids get paid by an agent or show company, they all get the 1 year postseason ban. As the report said, the coaches, ADs, University presidents all need to be more aware of what is going on and the blissfully ignorant defense no longer applies.While I think this commission was put together to address the issue in college basketball, you can read between the lines that they want to the NCAA to take harder stands against places like Baylor, Penn State, and Michigan State where sexual assault claims were nuisances instead of serious accusations of potential criminal activity by a student, coach, team physician etc. You can almost hear the committee saying to the NCAA, we want you to make it hard on offending schools to the point where they don't just miss out on one or two postseasons simply because you told them they weren't eligible, make it difficult for them to come back for 3,4,5,6 years after the sanctions end so they learn a lesson. And it only takes one blue blood to get hammered like this. IF Louisville were to be barred from postseason play for 3-5 years, then that would send the message that the NCAA is not f---ing around anymore. If UNC were to get hammered for their academic fraud and miss 3-4 years of the NCAA tournament, people would not do it anymore. SMU took 25 years to realistically recover from the football death penalty, and no one cares because SMU is a fairly small private school with limited TV appeal. Do it to Louisville or UNC and it will stop.

EDIT: And the NCAA won't lose any sponsors over this. People watch the tournament for the upsets and good games. If Louisville is not there or UNC is not there, that's 2 schools out of 312...they'll be replaced by other schools who deserve a shot and people will still go home early or to a sports bar and watch college basketball for 12 hours straight.

 

[HuffyCane]

A lot of things are in there that schools and particularly presidents will never agree to, therefore nothing will change. Independent investigations. No law firms involved, etc.

They did their job, got to travel around and act like big shots, but there was never any legitimate intent to change things -- nor can they in some cases.

 

[TU1NNJ]

I was at funeral this week and a well known well liked A 10 Head Basketball Coach was in attendance. I won’t mention his name because I was an indirect participant in the conversation (he was speaking to his childhood friend and good friend of mine). During the visitation my friend asked him about the investigation. His paraphrase response,
It makes me sick to my stomach that these coaches have done things that are just wrong and those of us that do it right are getting painted with the same brush because the public thinks we all do these things ..... Unless the NCAA takes action against those involved it just appears to be the same old business as usual..... we all (in the profession) know who is doing it.

 

[I.I.]

De Sousa at Kansas implicated with $ 20,000 buy from AAU agent. This just gets worse and worse.

 

[TU 1978]

De Sousa at Kansas implicated with $ 20,000 buy from AAU agent. This just gets worse and worse.

It will only be better when the major programs are hit with severe sanctions.

 

[rusty-c]

It will only be better when the major programs are hit with severe sanctions.

And Hell will have frozen over that day....