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Discussion in 'Crossfire' started by TUMe, Jul 10, 2020.
Hopefully it will help/
According to the poll, it is narrowly supported. That's good that it's supported, bad that it's narrowly supported.
So it isn't being declared a city emergency? I thought that precluded leaving it up to a vote of the city council. If Mayor Bynum is taking that route intentionally, that is a wise & astute way to (politically) handle it. Mayor Holt of OKC already declared a city emergency froom July 3-14th.
It’s not going to happen and even if it did it wouldn’t help!
You can’t get it outside unless someone with the virus is straight up in your face & at zero distance spitting directly into your eyes/mouth. Even in Wuhan they’re not forcing people to wear masks outside.
Stitt tested positive so that's interesting.
Well GT Bynum did it. Masks are now required. Fucc him & his reckless disregard for the constitution. Fuccn fear mongering PoS
You do realize that countries and areas with mask requirements have fared much better than areas that haven't had them?
Also, what is the conspiracy of taking away rights?
Is this like seatbelts laws? Is it like abortion laws?
What is it that world is going after using COVID as an excuse?
Brief summary or highlights please. I don't have time to read 10K words on this or watch videos
Fear is what scared New York into dealing with covid, and wearing masks without much debate. We've had 78 deaths in Tulsa. I wonder if we had approximately 1000 deaths, which is pretty close to the per capita # of deaths in New York, if we would act differently.(9.8m pop/22,8k deaths: .4m pop/78 death)
I doubt it.
Dart did predict 2000 to 3000 deaths in Tulsa alone by July...so there’s that .
We don't need a shut down, just universal masks. I have to say that I feel for those who work out doors all day, every day.
But it looks like masks, state wide, are the only thing left without shutting down.
You shouldnt need a mask outdoors unless ur right next to someone.
Did NY actually deal with covid? Or is it just that most of the vulnerable in NYC have been infected/are dead?
Another tough break for Rippin
He doesn't care about the truth. He probably is a fan of Alex Jones and his conspiracy crap. Probably believes Sandy Hook never happened. Don't waste your time on him WD
And 50% of Tulsans who think this is some Gates driven conspiracy. Have your phones ready on Monday my friends...you're going to hit it big with the YouTube clips you can post about all the Karens who think WalMart can't infringe on their personal rights.
And the actual ordinance allows for that.
I would say unless you're in an area with a large group of people. (If you're going to a beach, or an event that may or may not be crowded, then you should plan on having a mask if it's over a certain occupancy)
Unless you're bored, he's fun to play with from time to time.
Oh, it’s far worse than that.
I don't have the time nor the inclination to even mess around with that. He's infuriating. If I had an inkling that he was just trying to rile things up, that'd be one thing...but I believe he believes all of the nonsense, and his only news source is InfoWars
Ok, Damon, this is not fair.
You can’t compare masks to seatbelts. They’re literally the opposite. A seatbelt PROTECTS YOU. A mask PROTECTS OTHERS.
Furthermore, unless it’s my seed in the woman abortion laws do not directly affect me AT ALL, so that’s also not a fair comparison/analogy. I disagree with all abortion, I believe it is murdering innocent children which is the worst sin in the world, but you can’t compare the conscious decision of a woman to have one to a city ordinance mandating that you wear a mask in public.
Also, to which countries are you referring? I ask because I know that hospitals in other countries not only don’t receive the same financial/HR benefits as the USA per COVID case (& receive way more per COVID death), many of them lie about the numbers for other reasons.
Do you really think there are more cases/deaths in the USA than China? The same corrupt communist China that got the WHO to lie to the entire world just to protect China (primarily from a Trump victory in November but also from embarrassment)...
“What is it that the world is going after using COVID as an excuse?” That’s what you asked. The answer is a 2 term Trump presidency & the USA continuing re-emerge as the world’s superpower (while gaining even more ground on every other country close to us) while also keeping China’s economy at less than 1% growth for 8 straight years, ruining their plans of their “new Silk Road” / replacing the USA as the world’s premier super power.
This is the type of stuff that people who won’t be voting for Trump are actively (even if it is unwittingly) supporting - it goes beyond the riots by antifa & BLM:
Another example of what people not voting for Trump/supporting Dems/BLM are in favor:
Maybe look at something a little more objective. The Examiner and FoxNews don't qualify as either.
Our choices aren't any better than 4 years ago but, Trump has divided the country so much, even if he loses we could end up on on the verge of civil war.
But, our best chances at all around recovery and reunification are without him in office.
Here are some great videos about your hero...
This talk is way over blown. Nobody with any credibility on the left thinks what’s going on right now in this country is worth dying for. They are too busy getting rich and waiting to increase their power. Now, if you see a charismatic figure come forward and say “let’s fight, I’m willing to die. How about you?” Then we’ve got problems. M
Another great one:
It may get even worse, but there won't be a civil war.
It’s really sad that you think he has divided the country. The majority of the country disapproves of BLM. BLM donations go directly to a DNC supporting Super PAC, ActBlu
No one ever addresses the leading cause of death for young black men - it’s being murdered by other young black men. BLM is a joke, it’s run by Marxists. The democrats ALWAYS accuse Trump of exactly what they’re guilty of doing themselves. It’s the democrats who are dividing the country. I’m very disappointed because I know you’re smarter than to be one of these NPCs who just believes whatever propaganda any left wing political news outlet tells you.
It isn’t surprising that the Dems have been caught accusing Trump of crimes of which their guilty as literally everything they claim to support policy wise they simultaneously claim to support something that is inherently mutually exclusive. Thus, they are hypocrites. The worst type of hypocrites imaginable in that EVERY SINGLE THING THEY DO & SAY IS DEMONSTRABLY HYPOCRITICAL!
I actually don’t watch Fox News.
How about the FBI? Do they count as a credible source?
You’re right, actually. It’d be more like a Grenada. Actually, it’d be even quicker than Grenada. Thus, it wouldn’t be considered a war.
Not that it hadn’t already begun, it started a long time ago BUT I DID TELL ALL OF YOU THIS! I WARNED YOU! THEY WILL COME FOR YOU! AND WHEN THEY DO COME FOR YOU, IT WILL NOT MATTER IF YOU WERE DOWN WITH THE CAUSE!
I didn't bring up BLM.
You're doing what most remaining Trump supporters do. Attack everything that isn't 100% pro Trump when anything non-positive about him is brought up.
I said he has divided the country.That's fact. If you don't see it, you're head is in the sand or you never go anywhere that isn't white middle/upper class.
On BLM, it's a good cause sabotaged by a handful of idiots.
True BLM'ers acknowledge that blacks need to stop killing black blacks.
Meanwhile, Trump brought up Antifa and Anarchist and his supporters jumped on that without question.
You want fake news? See the 5% of the out of control riots being presented as 95% of the peaceful protests thus the BLM movement being seen as looters and rioters.
On the press...SMDH... probably the one thing we can all agree on.
They screwed themselves 10-15 years ago... all sides.
It's going to be tough for them to recover without major changes.
Only 314 new cases reported today
the democrats , doj, fbi, media have divided the country.
You forgot the Pubs.
You forgot Donald Trump, Bernie Sanders, The Neo KKK, Antifa, Kanye West, BLM, Hollywood, Evangelical Mega Churches, #MeToo, Police Unions, Lindsay Graham, Mitch McConnell (+The Republican Senate), Jeff Sessions, Bill Barr, Fox News, Rudy Guliani, The House Freedom Caucus, Ben Shapiro, and Elected Officials in Gerrymandered State Governments.
Oh, and the governments of Russia and China.