Hardly communist. There are already several public companies that provide services to promote healthy life styles to employees that employers already pay for. Lemonade is one I think. It makes economic sense for the company in reduced healthcare costs and absenteeism. Some companies also provide cash incentives for healthy lifestyles. Japanese companies used to hold calisthenics in the morning. Philips 66 was a huge AAU supporter back in the day and still has remarkable athletic facilities in B-ville.
Making Covid permanent?
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Lol….I backed off the mandatory and fell back to offer health programs for all employees. We have the largest percentage of obese citizens in the world. This needs to change. Obesity costs all of us in higher health insurance.
So Fauci is now so concerned about businesses having sufficient staff to efficiently keep running that we’re recommending sending people back to work after 5 days. This is a guy who hasn’t given a damn about anything business related until now. Guess one says what they have to say to keep their job.
Obesity does, so do alcohol, weed, cigarettes, extreme sports, pregnancy, and preexisting conditions lol.
Covid risk calculator for parties and meetings from CDC
COVID-19 Visit Risk Calculator (2021 - 2022)
https://covidvisitrisk.com/riskscore-english.html
COVID-19 Visit Risk Calculator (2021 - 2022)
https://covidvisitrisk.com/riskscore-english.html
A study which confirms what many of us has seen in the numbers for weeks. Vaccinations are not playing a significant factor in slowing Covid spread. Really remarkable given prior statements from scientist and politicians. How could they be so wrong ? Maybe we should stop referring to it as a “vaccination”?
Why are you still posting this stuff? Everyone, and I mean everyone has known since mid November that the vaccines wouldn't have the same level of protection against the new variant. Even the vaccine makers said it. If you're so upset about this why haven't you been railing against the Flu shot? Go look at wikipedia.A study which confirms what many of us has seen in the numbers for weeks. Vaccinations are not playing a significant factor in slowing Covid spread. Really remarkable given prior statements from scientist and politicians. How could they be so wrong ? Maybe we should stop referring to it as a “vaccination”?
A vaccine is a biological preparation that provides active acquired immunity to a particular infectious disease.[1] A vaccine typically contains an agent that resembles a disease-causing microorganism and is often made from weakened or killed forms of the microbe, its toxins, or one of its surface proteins. The agent stimulates the body's immune system to recognize the agent as a threat, destroy it, and to further recognize and destroy any of the microorganisms associated with that agent that it may encounter in the future. Vaccines can be prophylactic (to prevent or ameliorate the effects of a future infection by a natural or "wild" pathogen), or therapeutic (to fight a disease that has already occurred, such as cancer).[2][3][4][5] Some vaccines offer full sterilizing immunity, in which infection is prevented completely.[6]
I'm curious which scientists you're calling out for statements regarding this vaccine being a panacea? Certainly the heads of the two vaccine companies weren't saying that, in fact they were publicly acknowledging that a new strain could jeopardize their product's prolonged effectiveness.
That study didn’t find the vaccine didn’t provide the same level of protection. The study found it basically providing zero protection. Why am I posting this…because people obviously haven’t realized just how ineffective the vaccine is at this point regarding reducing Covid spread. As is evident by your statement 
When we start calling the flu shot a flu vaccine I will have a go at it.
Curious what the Biden Admin will argue in front of the Supremes now these studies are coming out showing vaccine mandates don’t significantly slow the spread of Covid? The general health of the employee is a much harder sell imo as their are many other health conditions which place people at higher risk of serious illness or death. Not sure an OSHA argument wins if one can’t make this about a safety issue to others.
When we start calling the flu shot a flu vaccine I will have a go at it.
Curious what the Biden Admin will argue in front of the Supremes now these studies are coming out showing vaccine mandates don’t significantly slow the spread of Covid? The general health of the employee is a much harder sell imo as their are many other health conditions which place people at higher risk of serious illness or death. Not sure an OSHA argument wins if one can’t make this about a safety issue to others.
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The fact that it doesn't provide protection from transmission does not mean that it doesn't provide benefit for severity, and the study doesn't say anything about that.That study didn’t find the vaccine didn’t provide the same level of protection. The study found it basically providing zero protection. Why am I posting this…because people obviously haven’t realized just how ineffective the vaccine is at this point regarding reducing Covid spread. As is evident by your statement
When we start calling the flu shot a flu vaccine I will have a go at it.
Curious what the Biden Admin will argue in front of the Supremes now these studies are coming out showing vaccine mandates don’t significantly slow the spread of Covid? The general health of the employee is a much harder sell imo as their are many other health conditions which place people at higher risk of serious illness or death. Not sure an OSHA argument wins if one can’t make this about a safety issue to others.
They do call the seasonal flu shot a flu vaccine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_vaccine
Scientifically, vaccines do not always provide complete immunization for every strain of a virus, nor does the protection they provide have to be perpetual. For example, the Chicken Pox vaccine doesn't last a life time. You might argue that expectations for this vaccine should have been more broad, but not that it's not a vaccine at all. It clearly was, especially for the first few viral instances.
Your obsession with what you call 📱 it, seems to be similar to Democrats obsession to be politically correct. On face value it seems pretty rilcedous.A study which confirms what many of us has seen in the numbers for weeks. Vaccinations are not playing a significant factor in slowing Covid spread. Really remarkable given prior statements from scientist and politicians. How could they be so wrong ? Maybe we should stop referring to it as a “vaccination”?
The flu shot is properly called a flu vaccine, as noted by aston. Scientific name is a denotation of it's method, no matter how successful it is or isn't.
Given the confusion about what covid policy and conflicting information, I suggest following the Dean of Brown University’s school of public health. Clear, simple, informed: @ashishkjha on Twitter. Or find him here:
Dr. Ashish Jha speaks on omicron variant surge
www.nbcnews.com
Dr. Ashish Jha speaks on omicron variant surge
Dr. Ashish Jha speaks on omicron variant surge
Dr. Ashish Jha speaks with NBC News’ Lester Holt about the spread of the omicron variant, the possibility of it pushing delta out and more.
www.nbcnews.com
For those of you saying it's just theater 🎭 to wear a mask, and they haven't been effective, it is of interest to read this article.
The wearing of masks was largely cloth masks & at best surgical masks for the longest time. (due to lack of supply)
If we had been equipped with k95 or n95 masks from the start, (when it was more popular & better advocated to wear a mask) it probably wouldn't be considered theater 🎭 by so many people now.
There is an abundant supply of k95 & n95 masks today.
The wearing of masks was largely cloth masks & at best surgical masks for the longest time. (due to lack of supply)
If we had been equipped with k95 or n95 masks from the start, (when it was more popular & better advocated to wear a mask) it probably wouldn't be considered theater 🎭 by so many people now.
There is an abundant supply of k95 & n95 masks today.
Combating an enemy that keeps changing its tactics is hard.
CDC's Walensky said that early evidence suggests that the omicron variant may help protect people from the delta variant. On the flip side, "we have an indication that if you had delta, you are susceptible to infection with omicron," she said.
And would an omicron infection protect a person from omicron reinfection? The CDC is beginning studies to answer this question.
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/omicron-cases-fall-just-quickly-rose-cdc-says-rcna11356
CDC's Walensky said that early evidence suggests that the omicron variant may help protect people from the delta variant. On the flip side, "we have an indication that if you had delta, you are susceptible to infection with omicron," she said.
And would an omicron infection protect a person from omicron reinfection? The CDC is beginning studies to answer this question.
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/omicron-cases-fall-just-quickly-rose-cdc-says-rcna11356
Just going to leave this here.
www.courant.com
Connecticut asks nursing homes to accept COVID-positive admissions from hospitals
Connecticut orders nursing homes to accept COVID-positive admissions from hospitals.
I understand the reasoning like I understood it back in 2020 when NY, NJ, PA, and others did it then, but it’s insane that they’re doing this again now. Are they counting on people in nursing homes catching it and just dying in the nursing home rather than getting taken back to the hospital?
You would think the state could find somewhere (hell anywhere) to place Covid positive people other than with the most vulnerable people in the population. Connecticut has 90% of its population with at least one dose and 75% are fully vaccinated for reference.
Can’t wait until we can see Boosted Vs. Vaccinated vs unvaccinated numbers on those hospitalizations.
By coincidence I have also seen that due to transmission increasing we’re seeing a larger number of people who are in the hospital for unrelated ailments being included in the total covid hospitalizations because they’re testing positive while there.
I miss the old days when we could stop this virus if we had more testing, banned travel from China sooner, or wore cloth masks.
Covid positive hospital patients have always been reported as Covid hospitalizations. Some of us have been talking to the past two years about our reporting of Covid deaths. Dying from Covid and dying with Covid. I have received push back on this board of my claim. Seems I was right all along
Covid positive hospital patients have always been reported as Covid hospitalizations. Some of us have been talking to the past two years about our reporting of Covid deaths. Dying from Covid and dying with Covid. I have received push back on this board of my claim. Seems I was right all along
A Growing Gap
We look at Omicron’s toll in New York and Seattle, two cities with timely data.
Seattle has much more stringent masking and social distancing requirements than most places and by and large they are observed.......polar opposite from my experience in Texas.
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Can you point out in the article you cited where it discusses the masking and social distancing requirements as a factor in transmission rates ?A Growing Gap
We look at Omicron’s toll in New York and Seattle, two cities with timely data.www.nytimes.com
Seattle has much more stringent masking and social distancing requirements than most places and by an large they observed.
I may return to Seattle one day if they clean it up to a point where you don't find needles everywhere.
I never pushed back on the fact that there existed misreporting… just that the scale of misreporting wasn’t high enough to make a large difference.
Didn’t see one needle in multiple visits there which included traveling near downtown and elsewhere, though admittedly I did see some tent colonies under freeways.
One of my best friends from the army lives in Olympia. Went up to visit him and we went to Seattle and he was embarrassed at all the stuff everywhere. Thanks for playing though.
Love Oregon and Washington as a whole. Probably my favorite states I’ve visited, but a state isn’t defined by a city going through a rough stretch. Last time I was in Austin, which used to be my favorite city, there were drug addicts littered through the streets everywhere. It was genuinely not a safe place to be. They recently voted on some things to change that so hopefully it’s better, but that place was nuts last time I was there.
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they keep reporting all the new covid cases. how do they know, i thought they were out of test kits
Duly noted.. never gave an eff for the left coast anyway... y'all stay the heck out of here and we wont go there...
And yet… you neglect to address the part where he was asked about the comment that you’ve so repeatedly been upset about regarding the pandemic of the unvaccinated.
