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Irish editorial about the USA

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I am new here and don't want to make enemies. I got this essay from an old shipmate who moved to Ireland. It bothers me a lot. What do you think? Also as former military West Point's demand that the senior class return so the CIC can make a speech seems to mix politics with the military that is different and not in a good way. Comments welcome. Please don't flame me.

From the Irish Times
April 25, 2020
By Fintan O’Toole

THE WORLD HAS LOVED, HATED AND ENVIED THE U.S. NOW, FOR THE FIRST TIME, WE PITY IT

Over more than two centuries, the United States has stirred a very wide range of feelings in the rest of the world: love and hatred, fear and hope, envy and contempt, awe and anger. But there is one emotion that has never been directed towards the US until now: pity.

However bad things are for most other rich democracies, it is hard not to feel sorry for Americans. Most of them did not vote for Donald Trump in 2016. Yet they are locked down with a malignant narcissist who, instead of protecting his people from Covid-19, has amplified its lethality. The country Trump promised to make great again has never in its history seemed so pitiful.

Will American prestige ever recover from this shameful episode? The US went into the coronavirus crisis with immense advantages: precious weeks of warning about what was coming, the world’s best concentration of medical and scientific expertise, effectively limitless financial resources, a military complex with stunning logistical capacity and most of the world’s leading technology corporations. Yet it managed to make itself the global epicentre of the pandemic.

As the American writer George Packer puts it in the current edition of the Atlantic, “The United States reacted ... like Pakistan or Belarus – like a country with shoddy infrastructure and a dysfunctional government whose leaders were too corrupt or stupid to head off mass suffering.”

It is one thing to be powerless in the face of a natural disaster, quite another to watch vast power being squandered in real time – wilfully, malevolently, vindictively. It is one thing for governments to fail (as, in one degree or another, most governments did), quite another to watch a ruler and his supporters actively spread a deadly virus. Trump, his party and Rupert Murdoch’s Fox News became vectors of the pestilence.

The grotesque spectacle of the president openly inciting people (some of them armed) to take to the streets to oppose the restrictions that save lives is the manifestation of a political death wish. What are supposed to be daily briefings on the crisis, demonstrative of national unity in the face of a shared challenge, have been used by Trump merely to sow confusion and division. They provide a recurring horror show in which all the neuroses that haunt the American subconscious dance naked on live TV.

If the plague is a test, its ruling political nexus ensured that the US would fail it at a terrible cost in human lives. In the process, the idea of the US as the world’s leading nation – an idea that has shaped the past century – has all but evaporated.

Other than the Trump impersonator Jair Bolsonaro in Brazil, who is now looking to the US as the exemplar of anything other than what not to do? How many people in Düsseldorf or Dublin are wishing they lived in Detroit or Dallas?

It is hard to remember now but, even in 2017, when Trump took office, the conventional wisdom in the US was that the Republican Party and the broader framework of US political institutions would prevent him from doing too much damage. This was always a delusion, but the pandemic has exposed it in the most savage ways.

Abject surrender
What used to be called mainstream conservatism has not absorbed Trump – he has absorbed it. Almost the entire right-wing half of American politics has surrendered abjectly to him. It has sacrificed on the altar of wanton stupidity the most basic ideas of responsibility, care and even safety.

Thus, even at the very end of March, 15 Republican governors had failed to order people to stay at home or to close non-essential businesses. In Alabama, for example, it was not until April 3rd that governor Kay Ivey finally issued a stay-at-home order.

In Florida, the state with the highest concentration of elderly people with underlying conditions, governor Ron DeSantis, a Trump mini-me, kept the beach resorts open to students travelling from all over the US for spring break parties. Even on April 1st, when he issued restrictions, DeSantis exempted religious services and “recreational activities”.

Georgia governor Brian Kemp, when he finally issued a stay-at-home order on April 1st, explained: “We didn’t know that [the virus can be spread by people without symptoms] until the last 24 hours.”

This is not mere ignorance – it is deliberate and homicidal stupidity. There is, as the demonstrations this week in US cities have shown, plenty of political mileage in denying the reality of the pandemic. It is fuelled by Fox News and far-right internet sites, and it reaps for these politicians millions of dollars in donations, mostly (in an ugly irony) from older people who are most vulnerable to the coronavirus.

It draws on a concoction of conspiracy theories, hatred of science, paranoia about the “deep state” and religious providentialism (God will protect the good folks) that is now very deeply infused in the mindset of the American right.

Trump embodies and enacts this mindset, but he did not invent it. The US response to the coronavirus crisis has been paralysed by a contradiction that the Republicans have inserted into the heart of US democracy. On the one hand, they want to control all the levers of governmental power. On the other they have created a popular base by playing on the notion that government is innately evil and must not be trusted.

The contradiction was made manifest in two of Trump’s statements on the pandemic: on the one hand that he has “total authority”, and on the other that “I don’t take responsibility at all”. Caught between authoritarian and anarchic impulses, he is incapable of coherence.

Fertile ground
But this is not just Donald Trump. The crisis has shown definitively that Trump’s presidency is not an aberration. It has grown on soil long prepared to receive it. The monstrous blossoming of misrule has structure and purpose and strategy behind it.

There are very powerful interests who demand “freedom” in order to do as they like with the environment, society and the economy. They have infused a very large part of American culture with the belief that “freedom” is literally more important than life. My freedom to own assault weapons trumps your right not to get shot at school. Now, my freedom to go to the barber (“I Need a Haircut” read one banner this week in St Paul, Minnesota) trumps your need to avoid infection.

Usually when this kind of outlandish idiocy is displaying itself, there is the comforting thought that, if things were really serious, it would all stop. People would sober up. Instead, a large part of the US has hit the bottle even harder.

And the president, his party and their media allies keep supplying the drinks. There has been no moment of truth, no shock of realisation that the antics have to end. No one of any substance on the US right has stepped in to say: get a grip, people are dying here.

That is the mark of how deep the trouble is for the US – it is not just that Trump has treated the crisis merely as a way to feed tribal hatreds but that this behaviour has become normalised. When the freak show is live on TV every evening, and the star is boasting about his ratings, it is not really a freak show any more. For a very large and solid bloc of Americans, it is reality.

And this will get worse before it gets better. Trump has at least eight more months in power. In his inaugural address in 2017, he evoked “American carnage” and promised to make it stop. But now that the real carnage has arrived, he is revelling in it. He is in his element.

As things get worse, he will pump more hatred and falsehood, more death-wish defiance of reason and decency, into the groundwater. If a new administration succeeds him in 2021, it will have to clean up the toxic dump he leaves behind. If he is re-elected, toxicity will have become the lifeblood of American politics.

Either way, it will be a long time before the rest of the world can imagine America being great again.
 
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Interesting coming from a country whose death total would be well over 100k if we extrapolate their per capita deaths to the US population. Also curious to take on a state who has done a remarkable job protecting their large senior population (Florida). Assume he didn’t criticize Cuomo for requiring nursing homes take covid-19 positive seniors because he is a Dem. Can you imagine the death total in Florida if DeSantos had followed Cuomo’s policies ? Results matter.
 
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I'm not going to flame you. That's not my style, although I do counter punch. There should be the ability to disagree on here without starting an big argument.

The article is one sided. There is no mention of the flaws in the Democrats. Biden has some things that aren't mentioned. Nancy is Nancy, when is the House coming back? Certainly a double standard exists.

There has been tradition that when times get rough, the country comes together. That is no longer true and both sides share responsibility.

Glad to see you here Navy.
 
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Note to Ireland: We will remember this the next time there is a potato famine.
 
Thank you. Not the discussion I hoped for. Stay safe. Good bye.

Some of us don't take kindly to foreigners criticizing our country when they have issues in their own backyard, Especially when said remarks appear bias. We get plenty of that from our own journalist and politicians. Please post again. We need new blood in this forum.
 
Thank you. Not the discussion I hoped for. Stay safe. Good bye.
I don't doubt that we are pitied by Europe in general. I don't disagree with the fact that we deserve some of that pity. We are a very geocentric country that doesn't take criticism very well. I have never felt admitting your faults was a weakness. The first step to dealing with that problem is admitting we need to get Trump out of office.(admitting it is a problem) We have under performed like a country with a shoddy infrastructure. Trump has taken us to new lows in dealing with this crisis.
 
There's nothing to pity. Our country elected him. People got what they asked for.

"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."
 
Even with Trump as President we have still out performed Europe in almost every economic metric. Let that sink in. Europe has its own problems starting with the EU.
 
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If I "move back" they will have to chop me up. English, German, Scots-Irish, Louisiana French and Klingon.
"Klingon and Irish need not apply"

As far as I know, I would be pretty much Irish, German, Scottish, and English.... with some Norman heritage somewhere if you go back far enough. More Scottish than Irish though.
 
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If I "move back" they will have to chop me up. English, German, Scots-Irish, Louisiana French and Klingon.
I'd be sent back in pieces too. I'll be chopped up into Slovenian, Italian, U.K.

Does that qualify me for triple dual citizenship.

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"Klingon and Irish need not apply"

As far as I know, I would be pretty much Irish, German, Scottish, and English.... with some Norman heritage somewhere if you go back far enough. More Scottish than Irish though.
You must hate the separatist Scotland and Ireland, UK racist.
 
History is going to be more kind than you expect to the President on this issue and much more harsh on the non-political staff of CDC, FDA, and NIH than you might imagine. Serious, serious, serious dysfunction by the scientists.

The biggest lesson so far is that all the people that said the scientists should be making the decisions have finally figured out that the eggheads like to see themselves on TV as much as politicians and will say just about anything to be able to keep doing that.

And prepare for the numbers to spike in Florida. They aren’t hiding bodies in semis yet, but their reporting infrastructure is whacked and they’ve admitted it. Once that gets corrected the numbers will go up.
 
Those that have internal positions within that administration should be transparent if they are making statements about that administration.
 
History is going to be more kind than you expect to the President on this issue and much more harsh on the non-political staff of CDC, FDA, and NIH than you might imagine. Serious, serious, serious dysfunction by the scientists.

The biggest lesson so far is that all the people that said the scientists should be making the decisions have finally figured out that the eggheads like to see themselves on TV as much as politicians and will say just about anything to be able to keep doing that.

And prepare for the numbers to spike in Florida. They aren’t hiding bodies in semis yet, but their reporting infrastructure is whacked and they’ve admitted it. Once that gets corrected the numbers will go up.

I disagree with you, but thanks for posting.

What happens if there’s a spike? I take it we aren’t going to shut it down again. I think it’s going to get real weird real quick. Your post-apocalyptic name is your second dog name’s followed by “Sanchez.”
 
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