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FiFY...... another good argument for an independent Non-Career civil service.
I just don't understand why it really matters.Only the most partisan sheep are buying the “we just changed the definition of a recession because we don’t want to be in one ” garbage.
The recessions is what it is. Many of us knew a recession was inevitable given the economic circumstances and subsequent actions by the Fed. Arbitrarily attempting to change the definition of a recession to avoid having to admit to the same simply brings attention to the current economic state. Not sure why you don’t just own it like your predecessors.I just don't understand why it really matters.
Bush had 2 recessions start within his admin. Bush 1.0 had one, Reagan had 2. Trump had 1 related to Covid. It's not the 'recession' that's a problem. It's the factors causing the recession that are a problem.
Owning it with the upheaval going on politically is a bad choice. Not owning is seems like an excuse, and is a bad choice. No good choices at the moment. They seem to be taking the Trump model, and not owning anything that makes them look bad. You know if Trump were still in office he would be saying it's not a recession repetitively. He already pre-emptively "spent(several) days arguing that recession fears are a media construct meant to take him down." in 2019. In some sense not admitting to any failures worked for him. Trump had a base that believed everything he said, despite evidence to the contrary. They might have even made excuses to themselves early on in a recession if Trump denied it.The recessions is what it is. Many of us knew a recession was inevitable given the economic circumstances and subsequent actions by the Fed. Arbitrarily attempting to change the definition of a recession to avoid having to admit to the same simply brings attention to the current economic state. Not sure why you don’t just own it like your predecessors.
Don’t you think changing the definition brings even more attention to the current economic conditions? Not to mention giving the impression you would rather play silly word games than talk about solutions. Solutions to a problem you’re now denying exists. Never good look when people are trying to rationalize it by saying “Trump probably would have changed the definition as well in an attempt to deny it”. Just seems like a weird political move which very few people outside of hardcore Dems are likely to buy into.Owning it with the upheaval going on politically is a bad choice. Not owning is seems like an excuse, and is a bad choice. No good choices at the moment. They seem to be taking the Trump model, and not owning anything that makes them look bad. You know if Trump were still in office he would be saying it's not a recession repetitively. He already pre-emptively "spent(several) days arguing that recession fears are a media construct meant to take him down." in 2019. In some sense not admitting to any failures worked for him. Trump had a base that believed everything he said, despite evidence to the contrary. They might have even made excuses to themselves early on in a recession if Trump denied it.
I don't think it will work as well for the Democrats in this instance. It's hard to deny something that everybody feels financially. The evidence of a stolen election had no evidence felt by the masses. At this point there are actually some technical means that make it slightly believable, but it still probably won't work. Especially when those technical matters become not true any longer. We still don't meet the full definition of a recession. There are other pointers to a recession besides a falling GDP. But they are secondary to the two quarter reduction of the GDP.
I don't have a dog in this race. I'm not denying anything. I'm just trying to analyze their rationale. I think all of these word games by the republicans, trump, the democrats, and biden's administration are ridiculous. But it's the game they are playing.Don’t you think changing the definition brings even more attention to the current economic conditions? Not to mention giving the impression you would rather play silly word games than talk about solutions. Solutions to a problem you’re now denying exists. Never good look when people are trying to rationalize it by saying “Trump probably would have changed the definition as well in an attempt to deny it”. Just seems like a weird political move which very few people outside of hardcore Dems are likely to buy into.
Agree….unfortunately. The days of politicians saying “it’s on me, I feel your pain, and here’s how I’m going to fix it” seem to be a thing of the past. Seems like conditions would be conducive for the formation of a new political party. I can dream.I don't have a dog in this race. I'm not denying anything. I'm just trying to analyze their rationale. I think all of these word games by the republicans, trump, the democrats, and biden's administration are ridiculous. But it's the game they are playing.
The did just form a new party for centrist Republicans and Democrats as well as Independents. The announcement came out a couple of days ago.Agree….unfortunately. The days of politicians saying “it’s on me, I feel your pain, and here’s how I’m going to fix it” seem to be a thing of the past. Seems like conditions would be conducive for the formation of a new political party. I can dream.
I would have named it something else.. not only was that an Obama campaign slogan, but, "Forward!" was/is the slogan of most major marxist/socialist/communist movements of the last 150yrs..The Forward party is being fronted by Yang and former Republican David Jolly. Don't know if that will satisfy your desires. Christine Whitman, former Republican governor of New Jersey will chair the party with Yang.
Beats running the country like a mob boss.Yang is eccentric in his policy stances, and not in a good way. He wants to run the country like a venture capital company and that's not how the country can or should be run.
Dont talk about the "Big Guy" that way... you will offend Hunter.Beats running the country like a mob boss.