GAMES OF INTEREST (12.16.23-12.18.23) MISSOURI STATE

[loca2874]

ITS GAMEDAY!!!!! The Tulsa Men host Missouri State at the Reynolds Center this afternoon at 2:00 p.m.

There is a large slate of games on today with 10 American Conference teams in action.

Florida Atlantic takes on St. Bonaventure in the Basketball Hall of Fame Classic in Springfield, MA an our after the TU game starts. Also Jackson State take on Howard at the CP3 HBCU Challenge in Las Vegas, NV. Howard is a tough team taking Georgia Tech and Cincinnati down to the wire but eventually losing the game. Jackson State needs to be prepared for the Bison.

SMU visits Florida State and South Carolina State visits Pittsburgh as both games are on the ACC network.

Memphis hosts Clemson today at the same time as the TU game. This will be a game to watch as well.

AND ONE

Today the Bowl games start and I just realized I didn’t make the group, so my apologies for that. The NFL also starts their Saturday Scheduling with three games today. Vikings at the Bengals, 12:00 then Steelers at Colts, 3:30 and then Broncos at Lions 7:15. I will make a post on the Bowl games on the other board. That said this means that Football Season is winding down and that the Conference slate for basketball is right around the corner. Ready to see what the guys can do against the American.

GO TU!!!

Today’s games

Team	Rating		Team	Rating	Time	TV
South Carolina St.	328	at	Pittsburgh	42	1:00 p.m.	ACCN
Southern U.	177	at	Tulane	126	1:00 p.m.	ESPN+
Temple	148	at	VCU	106	1:00 p.m.	ESPN+
Missouri St.	115	at	Tulsa	191	2:00 p.m.	ESPN+
Clemson	11	at	Memphis	40	2:00 p.m.	ESPN+
Rice	248	at	Northwestern St.	352	2:00 p.m.	ESPN+
St. Bonaventure	66	vs	Fla. Atlantic	13	3:00 p.m.	ESPNU
Loyola Chicago	155	at	South Fla.	193	3:00 p.m.	ESPN+
Charlotte	96	at	Richmond	94	6:00 p.m.	ESPN+
Southern Ill.	110	at	Wichita St.	92	6:00 p.m.	ESPN+
SMU	76	at	Florida St.	128	7:00 p.m.	ACCN
Howard	216	vs	Jackson St.	267	11:00 p.m.	ESPNU

Rankings

Rank	Trend	School	Record	Road	Neutral	Home	Q1	Q2	Q3	Q4
13	Up 1	Fla. Atlantic	8-2	0-0	4-1	4-1	1-1	3-0	2-0	2-1
40	Down 1	Memphis	7-2	3-1	2-1	2-0	1-2	4-0	0-0	2-0
76	Down 1	SMU	5-4	0-1	1-1	4-2	0-2	0-2	1-0	4-0
92	Up 2	Wichita St.	6-3	1-1	1-2	4-0	0-1	0-1	3-1	3-0
96	Up 2	Charlotte	5-4	0-1	1-2	4-1	0-2	1-1	0-1	4-0
107	Up 3	North Texas	4-4	0-1	1-3	3-0	0-0	0-2	1-1	3-1
126	Down 4	Tulane	7-2	1-0	1-2	5-0	0-1	0-0	1-1	6-0
148	Up 1	Temple	5-3	2-0	1-1	2-2	0-0	1-2	0-1	4-0
191	Even	Tulsa	5-3	0-2	0-1	5-0	0-0	0-0	1-2	4-1
193	Down 1	South Fla.	4-4	0-2	1-0	3-2	0-0	0-2	2-0	2-2
240	Down 3	UAB	5-5	2-1	1-1	2-3	0-1	0-1	1-2	4-1
248	Down 1	Rice	3-6	0-2	0-3	3-1	0-4	0-1	0-1	3-0
258	Down 2	East Carolina	5-5	0-1	0-1	5-3	0-3	0-0	1-0	4-2
293	Up 3	UTSA	4-5	1-4	0-0	3-1	0-0	0-1	0-2	4-2

Rest of GOI Teams

Rank	Trend	School	Record	Road	Neutral	Home	Q1	Q2	Q3	Q4
115	Down 8	Missouri St.	7-3	0-3	3-0	4-0	0-1	0-0	3-1	4-1
150	Down 3	Oklahoma St.	4-5	0-1	1-2	3-2	0-1	0-2	1-1	3-1
154	Up 1	Oral Roberts	2-5	0-5	0-0	2-0	0-3	0-1	0-1	2-0
155	Up 1	Loyola Chicago	5-4	0-1	1-2	4-1	0-2	1-0	1-2	3-0
242	Up 7	Little Rock	5-6	0-3	0-1	5-2	0-0	0-1	0-2	5-3
267	Even	Jackson St.	2-7	2-7	0-0	0-0	0-2	1-0	1-5	0-0
317	Up 2	UIW	2-7	1-5	0-1	1-1	0-1	0-0	0-1	2-5
322	Up 12	New Mexico St.	1-7	0-4	0-2	1-1	0-4	0-0	0-1	1-2
328	Down 2	South Carolina St.	2-8	0-7	0-0	2-1	0-0	0-2	0-4	2-2
347	Even	Central Ark.	2-9	1-6	0-0	1-3	0-1	0-1	0-2	2-5
362	Even	Mississippi Val.	0-10	0-10	0-0	0-0	0-5	0-1	0-3	0-1

Quad Tracker

Q1	Quadrant 1: Home 1-30, Neutral 1-50, Away 1-75
	Quadrant 2: Home 31-75, Neutral 51-100, Away 76-135
Win	Quadrant 3: Home 76-160, Neutral 101-200, Away 136-240
none	Quadrant 4: Home 161-353, Neutral 201-353, Away 241-353
Loss
None
Q2
Win
None
Loss
None
Q3
Win
Loyola Chicago (H)
Loss
Oklahoma St. (N)
Oral Roberts (A)
Q4
Wins
Central Ark. (H)
UIW (H)
Jackson St. (H)
South Carolina St. (H)
Loss
Little Rock (A)

 

[nevadanatural]

I completely forgot the ESPN bowl pick-em until I got an email about it this morning. By the time I saw the email 3 games were already in progress so I just went through and picked a bunch of upsets.

 

[loca2874]

Pittsburgh over South Carolina state 86-50
VCU beat Temple 87-78
Memphis edged #13 Clemson 79-77
Rice over northwestern state 76-51
FAU over St. Bonaventure 64-54
South Florida over Loyola Chicago 77-64
Tulane over southern 105-81

The game of the day

Tulsa with a 191 NET edges out Missouri state with a 115 NET 73-72

 

[Gmoney4WW]

I'm just hoping one of our big men hits that period half way through our conference games where he starts playing like he's not a freshman any longer.

 

[Weatherdemon]

I'm just hoping one of our big men hits that period half way through our conference games where he starts playing like he's not a freshman any longer.

I think Reed is slowly improving. He certainly has more hustle the last 3 games.

 

[loca2874]

I think Reed is slowly improving. He certainly has more hustle the last 3 games.

I guess I just don’t see it. He just looks more bull in a china shoppy to me

 

[cmullinsTU]

Before the game I thought this was going to be an L. I have seen bits and pieces of their games and didn’t feel like we matched up well. That concern showed in the 2nd half when we couldn’t stop anything they ran offensively and the entire game on the boards.

Give the guys credit, unlike Konkol games thus far they didn’t quit. We got a few things go our way (them missing FTs and COBE’s steal bouncing off the ref) but we took advantage of it all late in the game.

A W like this can really help young teams better buyin and gain confidence. Hope it goes that way for these guys.

 

[Gmoney4WW]

I think Reed is slowly improving. He certainly has more hustle the last 3 games.

He needs to redistribute some of that weight into muscle. He gets out of breath a little too much.

 

[Gmoney4WW]

Memphis hosts Clemson today at the same time as the TU game. This will be a game to watch as well.

I hate to complain about this, but I can't believe they aren't ranked. Their worst loss was against a slightly subpar 7-4 Villanova. Their only other loss was against an undefeated Ole Miss team that should be ranked as well. They are now 3-0 versus ranked teams. If they don't make the top 25 this week, then they are getting jacked around. I don't look forward to our game with them. We will probably look like floor mops against them and FAU.

 

[loca2874]

Richmond over charlotte 64-56
Wichita state over southern Illinois 69-68

 

[loca2874]

8 minutes into the second half, SMU is up on Florida state 43-26

 

[astonmartin708]

8 minutes into the second half, SMU is up on Florida state 43-26

Kinda sad that we started rebuilding around the same time they did and they’re that far ahead of us.

 

[nevadanatural]

Any excuse to say bad things about TU. I will wait until we play them to assess the relative strengths of the two programs.

 

[loca2874]

The Smoo beats out Florida state 68-57

 

[astonmartin708]

Any excuse to say bad things about TU. I will wait until we play them to assess the relative strengths of the two programs.

Eye roll. I'm sorry that I don't like having to watch us lose to ORU and UALR? Is that the kind of apology that you need?

 

[Gmoney4WW]

You just love making a fool out of yourself. Quit while you are behind.

 

[loca2874]

Lots of games went down yesterday and TU got themselves a win. Ugly win, but a win is a win. Last night Jackson State beat Howard 81-74 in the CP3 HBCU Challenge. Tulsa went up only 5 in the NET and Missouri State stayed even. The big Winner was Rice jumpin 37 spots beating Northwestern State by 20. WOW.

Today’s games

Jackson State finishes off the CP3 HBCU challenge by facing North Carolina A&T in Las Vegas.

Oral Roberts travels to stoolwater to face Oklahoma State.
UTSA takes on Oregon State
North Texas Travels to Mississippi st.
UAB plays a Division 2 team in Montevallo

AND ONE

The Washington Supreme court denied the appeal of the 10 departing schools of the PAC-12 and gave full control of the conference to Oregon State and Washington State. The 10 other schools who left forfeited their voting rights and now cannot vote on what to do with the conference including sale of the assets. I am putting the link here for you to read.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...shington-supreme-court-denies-review-request/

GO TU!!!

Today’s games

Team	Rating		Team	Rating	Time	TV
Montevallo	###	at	UAB	239	2:00 p.m.	ESPN+
UTSA	291	at	Oregon St.	191	2:00 p.m.	PAC12
North Texas	102	at	Mississippi St.	47	3:00 p.m.	SEC NET
Oral Roberts	152	at	Oklahoma St.	150	4:00 p.m.	BIG12/ESPN+
N.C. A&T	352	vs	Jackson St.	248	7:30 p.m.	ESPNU

Rankings

Rank	Trend	School	Record	Road	Neutral	Home	Q1	Q2	Q3	Q4
12	Up 1	Fla. Atlantic	9-2	0-0	5-1	4-1	1-1	4-0	2-0	2-1
34	Up 6	Memphis	8-2	3-1	2-1	3-0	2-2	4-0	0-0	2-0
65	Up 11	SMU	6-4	1-1	1-1	4-2	0-3	0-1	2-0	4-0
92	Even	Wichita St.	7-3	1-1	1-2	5-0	0-0	0-2	4-1	3-0
102	Up 5	North Texas	4-4	0-1	1-3	3-0	0-0	0-2	1-1	3-1
103	Down 7	Charlotte	5-5	0-2	1-2	4-1	0-1	1-3	0-1	4-0
114	Up 12	Tulane	8-2	1-0	1-2	6-0	0-1	0-0	1-1	7-0
146	Up 2	Temple	5-4	2-1	1-1	2-2	0-1	1-2	0-1	4-0
174	Up 19	South Fla.	5-4	0-2	1-0	4-2	0-0	0-2	2-0	3-2
186	Up 5	Tulsa	6-3	0-2	0-1	6-0	0-0	0-0	1-3	5-0
211	Up 37	Rice	4-6	1-2	0-3	3-1	0-5	0-0	0-1	4-0
239	Up 1	UAB	5-5	2-1	1-1	2-3	0-1	0-1	1-2	4-1
256	Up 2	East Carolina	5-5	0-1	0-1	5-3	0-1	0-2	1-0	4-2
291	Up 2	UTSA	4-5	1-4	0-0	3-1	0-0	0-1	0-3	4-1

Rest of GOI Teams

Rank	Trend	School	Record	Road	Neutral	Home	Q1	Q2	Q3	Q4
115	Even	Missouri St.	7-4	0-4	3-0	4-0	0-1	0-0	3-2	4-1
150	Even	Oklahoma St.	4-5	0-1	1-2	3-2	0-1	0-2	1-0	3-2
152	Up 2	Oral Roberts	2-5	0-5	0-0	2-0	0-2	0-2	0-1	2-0
171	Down 16	Loyola Chicago	5-5	0-2	1-2	4-1	0-2	1-0	1-3	3-0
237	Up 5	Little Rock	5-6	0-3	0-1	5-2	0-0	0-1	0-2	5-3
248	Up 19	Jackson St.	3-7	2-7	1-0	0-0	0-2	1-0	1-5	1-0
315	Up 2	UIW	2-7	1-5	0-1	1-1	0-1	0-0	0-2	2-4
321	Up 1	New Mexico St.	1-7	0-4	0-2	1-1	0-4	0-0	0-1	1-2
331	Down 3	South Carolina St.	2-9	0-8	0-0	2-1	0-1	0-3	0-3	2-2
348	Down 1	Central Ark.	2-9	1-6	0-0	1-3	0-0	0-2	0-2	2-5
362	Even	Mississippi Val.	0-10	0-10	0-0	0-0	0-5	0-2	0-2	0-1

Quad Tracker

Q1	Quadrant 1: Home 1-30, Neutral 1-50, Away 1-75
	Quadrant 2: Home 31-75, Neutral 51-100, Away 76-135
Win	Quadrant 3: Home 76-160, Neutral 101-200, Away 136-240
none	Quadrant 4: Home 161-353, Neutral 201-353, Away 241-353
Loss
None
Q2
Win
None
Loss
None
Q3
Win
Missouri State (H)
Loss
Oklahoma St. (N)
Oral Roberts (A)
Little Rock (A)
Q4
Wins
Central Ark. (H)
UIW (H)
Jackson St. (H)
South Carolina St. (H)
Loyola Chicago (H)
Loss
None

 

[nevadanatural]

Eye roll. I'm sorry that I don't like having to watch us lose to ORU and UALR? Is that the kind of apology that you need?

No apology needed, you just need to enter a depression treatment program. It would also help if after a win you could keep your negativity to yourself. You should get together with OTF and Dirty Red and have a good cry every time we win.

 

[Gmoney4WW]

No apology needed, you just need to enter a depression treatment program. It would also help if after a win you could keep your negativity to yourself. You should get together with OTF and Dirty Red and have a good cry every time we win.

Live from NW ArKansas

 

[loca2874]

UAB beat Montevallo 92-56
Oregon state edges out UTSA 66-65
Mississippi state beat North Texas 72-54
Oklahoma State beats ORU 81-60

 

[astonmartin708]

No apology needed, you just need to enter a depression treatment program. It would also help if after a win you could keep your negativity to yourself. You should get together with OTF and Dirty Red and have a good cry every time we win.

”The truth hurts”

 

[loca2874]

The big winner yesterday was Oklahoma State laying a beat down of ORU as they jump 22 spots in the rankings. North Texas and ORU were the big Losers with the Golden knights dropping 32 spots. The Mean Green dropped 27 spots from their loss to Mississippi state.

Today’s games

South Carolina State takes on UNC Asheville
Murray State takes on Yooler.

AND ONE

Two good things happened yesterday. The Cowboys got whipped and I won my fantasy football playoff game because the Cowboys got whipped. All is right in the world until this weekend when it starts over again. For all of you in fantasy football leagues and the playoffs have started, good luck to you. Hopefully this year I can get that ring.

GO TU!!!

Today’s games

Team	Rating		Team	Rating	Time	TV
South Carolina St.	332	at	UNC Asheville	247	5:00 p.m.	ESPN+
Murray St.	236	at	Little Rock	235	6:30 p.m.	ESPN+

Rankings

Rank	Trend	School	Record	Road	Neutral	Home	Q1	Q2	Q3	Q4
11	Up 1	Fla. Atlantic	9-2	0-0	5-1	4-1	2-1	3-0	2-0	2-1
34	Even	Memphis	8-2	3-1	2-1	3-0	2-2	3-0	1-0	2-0
62	Up 3	SMU	6-4	1-1	1-1	4-2	0-3	0-1	2-0	4-0
91	Up 1	Wichita St.	7-3	1-1	1-2	5-0	0-0	0-2	4-1	3-0
108	Down 5	Charlotte	5-5	0-2	1-2	4-1	0-1	1-3	0-1	4-0
110	Up 4	Tulane	8-2	1-0	1-2	6-0	0-1	0-0	1-1	7-0
129	Down 27	North Texas	4-5	0-1	1-4	3-0	0-1	0-2	1-1	3-1
147	Down 1	Temple	5-4	2-1	1-1	2-2	0-1	1-2	0-1	4-0
173	Up 1	South Fla.	5-4	0-2	1-0	4-2	0-0	0-2	2-0	3-2
189	Down 3	Tulsa	6-3	0-2	0-1	6-0	0-0	0-0	1-3	5-0
209	Up 2	Rice	4-6	1-2	0-3	3-1	0-4	0-1	0-1	4-0
238	Up 1	UAB	5-5	2-1	1-1	2-3	0-1	0-1	1-2	4-1
253	Up 3	East Carolina	5-5	0-1	0-1	5-3	0-1	0-2	1-0	4-2
284	Up 7	UTSA	4-6	1-5	0-0	3-1	0-0	0-1	0-4	4-1

Rest of GOI Teams

Rank	Trend	School	Record	Road	Neutral	Home	Q1	Q2	Q3	Q4
115	Even	Missouri St.	7-4	0-4	3-0	4-0	0-1	0-0	2-2	5-1
128	Up 22	Oklahoma St.	5-5	0-1	1-2	4-2	0-1	0-2	1-0	4-2
169	Up 3	Loyola Chicago	5-5	0-2	1-2	4-1	0-2	1-0	1-3	3-0
184	Down 32	Oral Roberts	2-6	0-6	0-0	2-0	0-2	0-3	0-1	2-0
235	Up 2	Little Rock	5-6	0-3	0-1	5-2	0-0	0-1	0-2	5-3
255	Down 7	Jackson St.	4-7	2-7	2-0	0-0	0-2	1-0	1-5	2-0
315	Even	UIW	2-7	1-5	0-1	1-1	0-1	0-0	0-2	2-4
321	Even	New Mexico St.	1-7	0-4	0-2	1-1	0-4	0-0	0-1	1-2
332	Down 1	South Carolina St.	2-9	0-8	0-0	2-1	0-1	0-3	0-3	2-2
348	Even	Central Ark.	2-9	1-6	0-0	1-3	0-0	0-2	0-2	2-5
362	Even	Mississippi Val.	0-10	0-10	0-0	0-0	0-5	0-2	0-2	0-1

Quad Tracker

Q1	Quadrant 1: Home 1-30, Neutral 1-50, Away 1-75
	Quadrant 2: Home 31-75, Neutral 51-100, Away 76-135
Win	Quadrant 3: Home 76-160, Neutral 101-200, Away 136-240
none	Quadrant 4: Home 161-353, Neutral 201-353, Away 241-353
Loss
None
Q2
Win
None
Loss
None
Q3
Win
Missouri State (H)
Loss
Oklahoma St. (N)
Oral Roberts (A)
Little Rock (A)
Q4
Wins
Central Ark. (H)
UIW (H)
Jackson St. (H)
South Carolina St. (H)
Loyola Chicago (H)
Loss
None

 

[cmullinsTU]

Kinda sad that we started rebuilding around the same time they did and they’re that far ahead of us.

You can donate some money to help out? SMU gets a lot more donor money from alumni than we do for athletics. And hiring Larry Brown to cheat to prominence helped too.

I'm not happy where we are at but at this point it is what it is.

 

[dougheffking]

You can donate some money to help out? SMU gets a lot more donor money from alumni than we do for athletics. And hiring Larry Brown to cheat to prominence helped too.

I'm not happy where we are at but at this point it is what it is.

It is what it is?

Haith left Konkol an absolute DUMPSTER FIRE last season. We are exactly where I thought we would be in year 2. Year 3 is when I expect us to be a bubble team.

 

[I.I.]

It is what it is?

Haith left Konkol an absolute DUMPSTER FIRE last season. We are exactly where I thought we would be in year 2. Year 3 is when I expect us to be a bubble team.

All depends if we can retain our best players in today's world. "Recruit, Retain, Win"

 

[cmullinsTU]

It is what it is?

Haith left Konkol an absolute DUMPSTER FIRE last season. We are exactly where I thought we would be in year 2. Year 3 is when I expect us to be a bubble team.

I was referring to since Haith came in to now, since aston was comparing us to SMU. Not blaming Konkol when I say I'm not happy where we are at -- it stems more from Haith being kept longer than he should've been but that's a conversation that has been discussed ad nauseum on here.

I, too, expect next year to be a bubble team.

 

[Gmoney4WW]

You can donate some money to help out? SMU gets a lot more donor money from alumni than we do for athletics. And hiring Larry Brown to cheat to prominence helped too.

I'm not happy where we are at but at this point it is what it is.

He doesn't give a dime until the product is producing, and only then can you hope to get 10 cents a year out of him.

 

[astonmartin708]

You can donate some money to help out? SMU gets a lot more donor money from alumni than we do for athletics. And hiring Larry Brown to cheat to prominence helped too.

I'm not happy where we are at but at this point it is what it is.

Totally agree with this. Not sure we have the alumni base to make up the difference though.

If Tulsa wants to win, it’s going to have to take the Moneyball approach.

”There are rich teams, there are poor teams, then there’s a hundred feet of crap… then there’s us”

 

[goldenhurricane2]

🤦🏼‍♂️

 

[astonmartin708]

🤦🏼‍♂️

^Someone who will have trouble succeeding in life because they have trouble acknowledging the realities of a situation. It makes them feel uncomfortable.

The only way to overcome obstacles is to acknowledge that the obstacles exist.

 

[Gmoney4WW]

^Someone who will have trouble succeeding in life because they have trouble acknowledging the realities of a situation. It makes them feel uncomfortable.

The only way to overcome obstacles is to acknowledge that the obstacles exist.

It's funny how your adjectives and descriptions portray us even more negatively than we are. Don't pretend you are a realist. You enjoy being more than realistic. The girls you've dated in life must be real pieces of work. You are a sadomasochist in your opinions of TU athletics. Nobody cares for it, but you already know that.

And you agreeing with CMullins when you have said you won't give a dime until the product improves, makes your comment to CMullins that much more amusing. Does it apply to everyone but you?

 

[goldenhurricane2]

^Someone who will have trouble succeeding in life because they have trouble acknowledging the realities of a situation. It makes them feel uncomfortable.

The only way to overcome obstacles is to acknowledge that the obstacles exist.

LOL! Thanks breh. I’m doing just fine for myself. I appreciate your interest though.

There’s a difference between realities and just choosing to be a negative Nancy about every single thing no matter what.

Just because someone chooses to not be miserable and find every single negative (even manufactured negatives) in every situation doesn’t mean they will “have trouble succeeding in life”

GTFO with that nonsense

 

[ctt8410]

For as mediocre as Jankovich was, SMU finished 56 and 62 in KenPom his last 2 years. They were a 1-seed in the NIT.

Lanier has done a nice job so far, but while their rebuild may have started at the same time as us, it definitely didn’t start at the same place as us.

 

[goldenhurricane2]

For as mediocre as Jankovich was, SMU finished 56 and 62 in KenPom his last 2 years. They were a 1-seed in the NIT.

Lanier has done a nice job so far, but while their rebuild may have started at the same time as us, it definitely didn’t start at the same place as us.

Careful using facts and logic around here

 

[cmullinsTU]

Careful using facts and logic around here

My feelings don’t care about your facts!!!!111

(Not poking fun at anyone here just wanted to toss in a joke)

 

[loca2874]

Little Rock beat Murray state 80-66

UNC Asheville held on to beat South Carolina state 79-75