And apparently Derrick Gragg. Embery's waiver is denied as is the appeal.
While Houston gets Grimes, a bunch of Embery's teammates were approved, etc...
While Houston gets Grimes, a bunch of Embery's teammates were approved, etc...
F the NCAA
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Does the NCAA give it's reasoning in denials or approvals of waivers? There's no pattern that I can discern.
This is accurate...unfortunately. Arkansas fought the waiver....which shouldn't surprise anyone. Everything tupatsfan posted matches exactly with what I've heard. I'm beginning the think we have the same source 
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Arkansas had a hand in it but Gragg is INCOMPETENT!! How does this guy keep his job?
The Arkansas thing was what I was afraid. Especially since we actually play them this season. It's still bull
e and this is the major thing that makes me mad about the NCAA. No regulatory consistency.
e and this is the major thing that makes me mad about the NCAA. No regulatory consistency.They still haven't ruled on Haywood yet. That's really lame that they get two denials in on Embery and haven't ruled on Haywood.
I truly don’t believe this is Graggs fault to be honest. We got boned by Arkansas and the ncaa is A joke.
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The NCAA specifically does not like Haith.
If Arkansas fought the waiver, I expect all the social justice collegiate sports warrior journalists to chime in like they did on Clarkson, Austin Kendall, and so on. If other players are eligible elsewhere from the same team, this is actual crap.
If Arkansas fought the waiver, I expect all the social justice collegiate sports warrior journalists to chime in like they did on Clarkson, Austin Kendall, and so on. If other players are eligible elsewhere from the same team, this is actual crap.
The really crap thing is that Embery basically already took a redshirt year by going to Prep school.
There are at least 2 other players who left Arkansas last year that have been granted waivers for this year. It's BS. We need to get Jay Bilas on this. He already despises the NCAA for his perception that they mistreat athletes and don't truly have the athletes best interests at the forefront instead of just protecting the amount of $ they take in.
We filed for the waiver under the "run off" exception. Arkansas was contacted and contested our assertion that KES was "run off".
Then how did the other 2 Arkansas players get their waivers? Ibrahim Ali transferred to Tulane and is immediately eligible. He is from Nigeria so the "closer to home" defense doesn't really work. Jordan Phillips also transferred and was granted immediate eligibility at UT-Arlington. He is from Arlington, TX so it makes sense if he used the "closer to home" reason on his waiver.
Those rules are weird. He did his senior year of high school at prep school, right? That’s different. A lot of those programs have two different teams.
I have no idea. Ali did't play last year. Phillips played in only 7 games and averaged less than 2ppg. I could see where Arkansas had no issues losing either one of those players. I take the fact that Arkansas cared enough to fight the waiver on KES a good sign. It's not like KES is ready to play and contribute to the team. This sucks but it's not the worst thing for TU basketball going forward.
As always. I may make this my signature.
Yeah I think the deal was he blew up that AAU summer and people got him to a prep school.
The more I think about this, the more I think it’s about Arkansas being butthurt and the NCAA questioning anything with Haith.
Whether or not the last school wants the transfer or not shouldn’t be an issue based on what we’ve seen recently in terms of NCAA legal issues due to player empowerment.
It's still an arbitrary ruling IMO. I don't agree with Bilas or Rod Gilmore on a lot of things with regards to how they seemingly want to let players essentially be professionals, but a free transfer after your FR year or after you graduate on time are 2 things I do think make sense. The NCAA doesn't have a "free transfer" rule in place but they've treated 1st yr FR that way in football and basketball recently (I still don't get how Justin Fields gets a waiver at Ohio State). #FreeKES
I think this is going to come back to bite the NCAA in the ass at some point. You can’t have a system where only the good players have to sit a year but the bad ones get to transfer freely. (Bad ones being a relative term based on strength of program)
The issue is they do this for big name programs that drive ratings. But when it’s us, they crap on everything every time. Burnham, for example. The worrisome part here is they actually approved other players playing immediately who ask transferred from the same damn team.
That is the definition of arbitrary and capricious.
That is the definition of arbitrary and capricious.
The NCAA has done a 180 w/ regards to waivers for transfers ever since the Baker Mayfield fiasco and his departure from Tech. Hell, Mayfield almost had to sit out a season AND lose a season of eligibility because of the Big XII rule regarding transfers in conference and not being released by his former university. Tech was extremely bitter about the whole thing and would not grant him a release and despite being appealed to 2 non-athletic committees at Tech, the university still did not budge...yet they did not see fit to give him a scholarship either (knowing they had Davis Webb on campus and Mahomes coming in for 2014). Mayfield only got to play 3 seasons at OU because of a rule change by the Big XII after he got to OU that was subsequently applied to his situation. That was a super high profile case...and the funny thing is no one really knew much of Mayfield or if he could really play a full season at that level. he only played a few games @ Tech because he got hurt. And Mayfield's real reason for transferring- he didn't think he should have to compete for the starting job lost only because he got injured (and he only got because the guy in front of him got hurt). But after the Mayfield fiasco and the negative publicity and backlash the NCAA got, they have been a lot quicker to approve waivers for virtually any reason.
It's really not arbitrary and capricious. There is a reason. It's just a reason that the NCAA doesn't want to admit on the record (because it will kill them in court). They are protecting the member institutions at the cost of the player's desires.
I come here for the recruiting news, but I stay at ITS for MartonAstin’s legal analalsus.
Wrong post for the wrong time. You clearly don’t get this situation. Blame the ncaa and Arkansas.
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