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Their dream will be shatteredWe win by 3 scores. Original and 4ever count it as a loss.
Hate to say it , but I could see this as a loss as wellButchers 31
Full Montys 20
I wish it was the other way around but this game is no different than the Davis game that I told you we could lose. Arkansas State has weapons and they are clearly in shape. They’ve beat us recently and can see they can beat us. We are hurting from OSU. I hate to be a negative Nancy, but go watch their games and come back and tell me this is an easy victory for us. They watched us lose to an FCS. They will come in expecting to win.
After week one, and based on history, there’s not a game left on the schedule that couldn’t be a loss. However, based on the last two weeks progress, there’s not a game left on the schedule that couldn’t be argued as a winnable game. There are numerous factors, not the least of which are play calling/game management and injuries. It could be an exciting or demoralizing ride to the end of the season. The one thing we can’t argue is that the kids are showing up and playing hard, and as long as that continues we’ve got a shot at righting the ship.Hate to say it , but I could see this as a loss as well
I think we will win several games. I think we will bowl if we beat Tulane. I don’t think we beat this team.After week one, and based on history, there’s not a game left on the schedule that couldn’t be a loss. However, based on the last two weeks progress, there’s not a game left on the schedule that couldn’t be argued as a winnable game. There are numerous factors, not the least of which are play calling/game management and injuries. It could be an exciting or demoralizing ride to the end of the season. The one thing we can’t argue is that the kids are showing up and playing hard, and as long as that continues we’ve got a shot at righting the ship.
Expect a miracle, miracles happen. We could see them in the Champ. At home.It's a shame we can't hand UCF another loss this season
They did lose their qbExpect a miracle, miracles happen. We could see them in the Champ. At home.
There’s not a game left that we CANT win , just tired of getting disappointed week after weekAfter week one, and based on history, there’s not a game left on the schedule that couldn’t be a loss. However, based on the last two weeks progress, there’s not a game left on the schedule that couldn’t be argued as a winnable game. There are numerous factors, not the least of which are play calling/game management and injuries. It could be an exciting or demoralizing ride to the end of the season. The one thing we can’t argue is that the kids are showing up and playing hard, and as long as that continues we’ve got a shot at righting the ship.
True that!There’s not a game left that we CANT win , just tired of getting disappointed week after week
I tend to lean your way Huffy. I'm really concerned with how the injuries are going to affect our play. Additionally, they always play us tough and can certainly put up points (except at Washington), and I don't think we can have two fairly well called offensive game plans in a row.I think we will win several games. I think we will bowl if we beat Tulane. I don’t think we beat this team.
Honestly, the injuries give players a chance to show what they can do. Frequently, we have guys on the bench who aren't playing because of "lack of experience" who are more physically gifted. Everyone loves Chris Paul and the kid is the epitome of what you want from a student athlete in terms of being a student, a leader, etc. but I am convinced that both Jaden Muskrat AND Bryce Bray probably should be starting over Chris based on athletic ability. Why haven't we seen Grayson Boomer at TE....Monty seems stuck on Hall and Palmer. Naylor wasn't going to see consistent playing time until there was an injury and yet he seems like an absolute stud. And we keep getting Cannon Montgomery out there as the 1st option for the 5th WR. That's completely insane and all because they don't work players into different slots in the offense. You know what killed us against OSU? Gundy moving the Bray kid around sometimes lining up outside, sometimes lining up in the slot. What happened? He killed us whenever Powers was trying to cover him in the slot. Monty seems incapable of having guys line up in different sets to see if there is a match up advantage he can exploit. It drives me crazy. We have talent on this team but they don't always get to show what they have because Monty is a by the book guy and won't play an under classmen over an upper classmen and he will defend it with the "experience" factor.I tend to lean your way Huffy. I'm really concerned with how the injuries are going to affect our play. Additionally, they always play us tough and can certainly put up points (except at Washington), and I don't think we can have two fairly well called offensive game plans in a row.
I saw a post game clip after tOSU game where Monty was talking about Cannon coming to him after zeeing an opening that had to do with a different type of motion they were using, so they adjusted accordingly during the game. Idk if that had to do with Cannon's scoring play, but we scored on 2 different plays that Cannon was heavily involved in.Honestly, the injuries give players a chance to show what they can do. Frequently, we have guys on the bench who aren't playing because of "lack of experience" who are more physically gifted. Everyone loves Chris Paul and the kid is the epitome of what you want from a student athlete in terms of being a student, a leader, etc. but I am convinced that both Jaden Muskrat AND Bryce Bray probably should be starting over Chris based on athletic ability. Why haven't we seen Grayson Boomer at TE....Monty seems stuck on Hall and Palmer. Naylor wasn't going to see consistent playing time until there was an injury and yet he seems like an absolute stud. And we keep getting Cannon Montgomery out there as the 1st option for the 5th WR. That's completely insane and all because they don't work players into different slots in the offense. You know what killed us against OSU? Gundy moving the Bray kid around sometimes lining up outside, sometimes lining up in the slot. What happened? He killed us whenever Powers was trying to cover him in the slot. Monty seems incapable of having guys line up in different sets to see if there is a match up advantage he can exploit. It drives me crazy. We have talent on this team but they don't always get to show what they have because Monty is a by the book guy and won't play an under classmen over an upper classmen and he will defend it with the "experience" factor.
Then let Cannon be the OC and call plays. He seems to see more than the current OC.I saw a post game clip after tOSU game where Monty was talking about Cannon coming to him after zeeing an opening that had to do with a different type of motion they were using, so they adjusted accordingly during the game. Idk if that had to do with Cannon's scoring play, but we scored on 2 different plays that Cannon was heavily involved in.
Oklahoma State prediction:
Oklahoma State 31
Tulsa 21
Final score:
Oklahoma State 28
Tulsa 23
Ohio State prediction:
Ohio State 41
Tulsa 21
Final score:
Ohio State 41
Tulsa 20
Arkansas State prediction:
Tulsa 34
Arkansas State 24
Is talent the only metric that determines playing time?Then let Cannon be the OC and call plays. He seems to see more than the current OC.
He is not more talented than 5-6 WRs who are not getting game reps.
There’s also not a game left we can’t lose, unfortunately.There’s not a game left that we CANT win , just tired of getting disappointed week after week
It should be...As long as the kid shows up with a good attitude and practices hard. My problem is they list all these WRs and they slot them into singular positions and hence why Josh Stewart never got playing time despite his talent. The lack of imagination and lack of having WRs learn multiple route trees and lining up in different places is why this offense is pretty predictable. I think Huffy calls it a HS offense. And they've literally created a WR position for Cannon Montgomery like double slot or something like that.Is talent the only metric that determines playing time?
Well... now that we are embracing socialism those other players have to share their playing timeIs talent the only metric that determines playing time?
God...the fact that the GOP continues to bring this up over the healthcare issue just demonstrates y'all don't really understand what socialism is...just that the morons who deliver the daily GOP talking points don't understand we've had "socialist" elements as part of our democracy for 245 years. Military, police, fire, public education (and no private education in OK), public transportation, air travel and airports, roads and bridges, etc. are all socialist in their very nature. And stop conflating "socialism" with "Communism" where they just use it as a big scary word because they know 99% of their base don't know what it is and won't bother to look it up. And the "communism" we knew growing up as part of the Cold War wasn't true communism as laid out by Marx and those governments devolved into Fascist dictatorships, as was the direction Trump, and his need to be in power, was taking us. I know this is Crossfire fodder...so keep those discussions over there and I won't have to respond hereWell... now that we are embracing socialism those other players have to share their playing time
There are other factors such as, hard work, responsibility, trust, mental fortitude, mental toughness, knowing the play book, knowing your route, etc. None of us go to practice. None of us know who checks what boxes to earn playing time. I watched the Spring Game and none of the WR's down the depth chart popped out enough to warrant seeing the field over anyone else I thought.It should be...As long as the kid shows up with a good attitude and practices hard. My problem is they list all these WRs and they slot them into singular positions and hence why Josh Stewart never got playing time despite his talent. The lack of imagination and lack of having WRs learn multiple route trees and lining up in different places is why this offense is pretty predictable. I think Huffy calls it a HS offense. And they've literally created a WR position for Cannon Montgomery like double slot or something like that.
Uncle Joe gonna lead us to the land of milk and honey where no body has to work!Well... now that we are embracing socialism those other players have to share their playing time
Skins a little thin huh?God...the fact that the GOP continues to bring this up over the healthcare issue just demonstrates y'all don't really understand what socialism is...just that the morons who deliver the daily GOP talking points don't understand we've had "socialist" elements as part of our democracy for 245 years. Military, police, fire, public education (and no private education in OK), public transportation, air travel and airports, roads and bridges, etc. are all socialist in their very nature. And stop conflating "socialism" with "Communism" where they just use it as a big scary word because they know 99% of their base don't know what it is and won't bother to look it up. And the "communism" we knew growing up as part of the Cold War wasn't true communism as laid out by Marx and those governments devolved into Fascist dictatorships, as was the direction Trump, and his need to be in power, was taking us. I know this is Crossfire fodder...so keep those discussions over there and I won't have to respond here
Wouldn’t surprise me at all if he is a Co-OC without playing calling duties in three years or maybe even less.Then let Cannon be the OC and call plays. He seems to see more than the current OC.
He is not more talented than 5-6 WRs who are not getting game reps.
It honestly shouldnt take much to coordinate the Briles offense... line up 4 wide recievers wide of the line.. fire them out of the shotgun .. reload and do it again in 15 seconds.. people act like this offense is magical.. it is basically a high school chuck n duck.Wouldn’t surprise me at all if he is a Co-OC without playing calling duties in three years or maybe even less.
Who are these people?people act like this offense is magical..
It is incredibly simple. Though the decisions players make can be complex. And it’s effective if your opponent isn’t in shape and doesn’t have depth. Which most teams didn’t from 2007-2017. Now they do. Not to mention you’ve got to have an elite NFL talent at QB like RG3, Keenum or even Dane to make it work. A tackle and a deep threat snd you are in business.It honestly shouldnt take much to coordinate the Briles offense... line up 4 wide recievers wide of the line.. fire them out of the shotgun .. reload and do it again in 15 seconds.. people act like this offense is magical.. it is basically a high school chuck n duck.