I would argue that misusing political systems to gerrymander districts, and subvert the will of the populace at large is nearly as bad as creating laws without giving the people any representation at all. It's all just the illusion of choice. When masses of people feel like their government isn't working for them and their voices aren't heard, they tend to get upset. Sometimes they make rash, and even self-harming decisions. (Look at the French Revolution for example). That doesn't mean that their frustrations aren't valid, or necessarily that the negative actions of a few should outweigh the desire for positive change of the many.
They look remarkably like soldiers to me. One might argue they're better equipped for soldiery than any redcoat ever was.
I guess that's what happens when you give all the military surplus from 2 failed wars to the police and then turn them against protesters.
Are you sure you speak for the will of the population at large?
I'm acknowledging that criminal acts occur for political reasons. They happened in literally EVERY revolution.
And yet, many people upset about riots in the PNW, still choose to fly their rebel flag... And that's actually part of why there are riots in the first place...
The Revolution exists only in your mind. When this is over in November neither Trump nor Biden will want a revolution, which they would be the target of if they win. We don't need a revolution and it is not going to happen. This country is not going to back one if they get baseball and football back, their kids in school and a return to normal life.
You are correct that not all of them have been peaceful...but let's also make sure that we're not mistaking the actual protesters who are doing so peacefully, with opportunists looking to destroy or loot because they can OR those on the other side looking to make the protesters look non-peaceful. It has been documented in several cities that members of the Boogaloo group and Proud Boys (extreme right wing groups) have been involved in some of the looting and destruction mixed in with protesters. We know this because their very own chatter pages and chat rooms have detailed how they would infiltrate. And just like in LA in 1992, opportunists used the backdrop of the protests and outrage to start looting for personal gain. Those individuals need to be thumped. Some of the behavior of the federal agents in Portland needs to be checked. Armed services vets are being beaten and pepper sprayed. Video footage does not show them being aggressive at all. (Maybe there is before footage somewhere showing more, but it hasn't been made public yet).
I don't think this is a revolution, but if incidents like this continue... you could be looking at one eventually. Hence, why I'm encouraging people to think critically about the issues and prevent negative outcomes in the future by opening their minds today.
One could argue that your point of view is in the minority and outnumbered 3-1 not counting the media programmed slaves
OK Kanye.One could argue that your point of view is in the minority and outnumbered 3-1 not counting the media programmed slaves
Fact check: the Boogaloo group and Proud Boys are not listed by the FBI as a extremest group. The Southern Poverty Law Center funded by George Soros has listed them as extremest group. See list of Soros funded organizations and you will be able to see that 95% of the organizational structure behind the protest are run by one of his organizations to include BLM. https://thewillcountynews.com/insta...-of-u-s-organizations-funded-by-george-soros/
Right now DOJ who oversees the FBI is a Trump puppet org. He would never list orgs that support him as terrorist or extremist. He lists them as "very fine people". You know the groups that carry Swastikas and Confederate Flags around to tout their white supremacist views. They're "very fine people". And the guys who bring semi-auto weapons to state capital buildings to threaten governors because of stay at home orders and mask mandates. "Very fine people". Trump lists BLM simply because to Trump black lives don't matter. They don't vote for him in big enough numbers or give enough to his campaign/personal slush fund for him to care.
Maybe. The colonists were extremely submissive up until the Boston Massacre in 1770. Even without the representation they did not go start to rise up until after that event. It didn't help that George III would add a new tax to finance his ongoing wars with France and Spain OR anytime a representative of the colonies sent a strongly worded letter decrying the new tax.
Alright Bueller! I’m sending you back to detention
The fact is, if more people shared your perspective, more people would be out in the streets protesting. Research the Arab Springs Movement and what factors you need in order to execute an effective Colour Revolution, then come back and we can have an educated discussion on how you accurately measure the majority and minority sentiment of a country. On a separate note, many people in this country want meaningful reform to the system but your perspectives lean Very much towards the complete replacement of our system instead of reform. The fact that you believe the majority of this country feels the same as most likely stems from you surrounding yourself with voices that echo the same sentiments. This assumption is not based on reality.Fact Check: the FBI did not compile the list I provided. The sources are clearly marked and don’t originate from government however you can request to see Public corporate donations made to NGO’s through multiple government offices. Fact check #2. The FBI is run by Obama era loyalists and this has particularly been a point of contention as the revelations of Obamagate and the false Russian collusion charges brought by the FBI are exposed and pending criminal charges forthcoming. Fact check #3. Millions of Brown people voted for POTUS in 2016 and even more fine brown people will vote for him this time around too. The racist narrative has played itself out. This president has done more for the Black community than any president maybe ever as far as his economic policies like the creation of opportunity zones and criminal reform and it’s not even close. Not to mention that unemployment in the black community was at an all time low pre COVID as well as building a strong economy. Actions speak louder than words!
If you believe any poll right now for either side I have some beachfront property on 11th and Harvard I would like to sell you. The silent majority is still in the process of making up their minds on who they will vote for and I predict the deciding factor will come down to who’s done what for me lately.
Ugh, the silent majority has been the silent minority for a while now. The Republican Party has won the popular vote how many times in the past 30 years? Answer: Once.
The popular vote doesn't count. Its like crying after a baseball game you lost 3- 4 and saying you should have won because you had more hits.
Until you start passing legislation and executive regulations related to our national security like say the food supply and agriculture production. It’s like you get a morning email from someone who lists a bunch of ideas that seem smart on the surface but have no practical application or fails to articulate risks.
That doesn't matter. What matters is that the large population states are being screwed in terms of voting power.
Yeah... meaning, Republicans wouldn't just have to appeal to the lowest common denominator anymore. They would have to support policies that actually were supported by a majority of Americans. SUCH A NOVEL IDEA!
Bueller, since when do your bat
crazy ideas represent the majority? Your liberal views are not even close to being moderate!
I know that my ideas can be progressive. That doesn't mean that having a country (and more specifically two parties) that embrace more moderate ideals wouldn't be preferable to what we have now, which is a whipsaw between heavily conservative and heavily liberal every 8 years. Also, I think many of my ideals would be supported by the vast majority of Americans if they were just moderated slightly. They're just not supported by the politicians that are feeding them.Bueller, since when do your bat
I feel like there was quite a lot of compromise under Bill Clinton, with the Republican Congress. So, that's not true.
