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Fire him TOMORROW!

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Babe the Blue Ox said:
I like your reasoning Doc, but one thing I just can’t do is drop my tickets. Kevin Wilson is insignificant in my opinion and I certainly wouldn’t give him the satisfaction of being the one to finally run me out of this place.

There are plenty of ways to express dissatisfaction but not showing up isn’t one of them.
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Sure. I am not saying anyone else should do that.

But I 100% intend to do it if he returns. So it is just me being honest. I suspect my statement represents a segment of fans but speak for myself.

Everyone should be true to themselves.
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Fire him TOMORROW!

Babe the Blue Ox
drboobay said:
Short version. Don't be stupid or disrespectful.

My added comments. Critical is different than disrespectful. Honest is different than disrespectful.

I have been thinking about what to convey to the AD. Somehow or another it will involve having no confidence in Wilson's ability to improve on field results, the personal irrelevance of a tailgate to me in absence of a good on field product, and my resolve to drop my long held season tickets if Wilson returns.

I think that's all respectful and honest. It might even represent the sentiment of a few other people.
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I like your reasoning Doc, but one thing I just can’t do is drop my tickets. Kevin Wilson is insignificant in my opinion and I certainly wouldn’t give him the satisfaction of being the one to finally run me out of this place.

There are plenty of ways to express dissatisfaction but not showing up isn’t one of them.
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USMNT New Era

quincy101
Agree it was a pretty lackluster performance. Passing mostly horrible, too many giveaways, Pulisic and Musah...meh! And still we can only score once and Pepe was lucky. Had half the net to shoot at & clanks it off the inside of the post. Busio is beginning to impress and prolly should have started. Agree with Bla on Scally, Tessman and Cardoso. Tillman is improving as a full time starter for PSV. Wonder what our new $6 million coach thinks of that less than stellar performance? Also agree on field condition...ugh!
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Fire him TOMORROW!

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HuffyCane said:
You’d be surprised who reads this board and even occasionally posts on it. Community elected leaders, current and former administrators, current and former trustees, senior university staff and volunteers, boosters from $1 to over $1 million, current and former coaches, former players, even at least a couple of faculty with varying motivations and support for athletics. Most of them think we are all mentally ill fools.

The University is well aware of who most of us are and our views. Keep the communication classy and concise and occasional and you’ll be surprised at the supportive feedback you’ll get beyond normal lip service.

The University posts videos and podcasts here. They have had in the past paid monitors who regularly briefed administrators and I assume still do. If so, they have a tedious job I appreciate.

Flooding an email account or voice mail box won’t be productive. Have two dozen of your close friends send you emails you have to respond to the first thing on a Monday morning, see how long that takes you, how much time you have left in the day, and whether you are temporarily still as fond of them as you were on Saturday.

Also, be prepared to listen as well as speak. TU generally shares your goals, but not all of TU’s goals for the athletic department are going to be the same as yours. Do your best to understand the exchange of information and respect the differences in direction desired. The differences are often very subtle nuance but important.

Especially those goals whose aspirations are not resource based. The school really is concerned about things other than winning or what something costs, or keeping a hundred or so people employed. Things that were important long before money took over the sport.

Things like making sure the program is sustainable so kids with nothing have a chance to get an education. The most insulting thing is the discussion about dropping football or lowering divisions. That implies that TU would be willing to compromise its century old commitment to thousands of future students with few or no opportunities to be educated elsewhere. To do that to win a few games for a few years until the money ran out or save a little in the grand scheme of things is the height of foolishness. Dont be a fool and bring that up.

TU has never been OU, who has millions of back seat drivers. Demands or commands will be as welcome as listening to a 5 year old in your backseat demand McDonald’s instead of Chik-fil-A when you are already blocked in waiting in the drive through. Threats of pulling donations will be met with the same level of frustration but professional response.

Be nice. Be supportive. Listen.

Communicate a desire that those you aren’t able to contact directly are held accountable. Your message will get through, as many on here can testify from telephone calls and email exchanges with senior administrators.

I love TU sports, in part, because of its small community.

TU might be the only program in the nation where an average fan with no donor history can have an ongoing personal relationship with the athletic department personnel and even some coaches. Think twice before you abuse that privilege because it reflects on all of us.
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Short version. Don't be stupid or disrespectful.

My added comments. Critical is different than disrespectful. Honest is different than disrespectful.

I have been thinking about what to convey to the AD. Somehow or another it will involve having no confidence in Wilson's ability to improve on field results, the personal irrelevance of a tailgate to me in absence of a good on field product, and my resolve to drop my long held season tickets if Wilson returns.

I think that's all respectful and honest. It might even represent the sentiment of a few other people.
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TU_BLA
1-0 win last night in Kingston for the US. Pepi scored early and the US held on. Jamaica should be fined for the condition of the pitch which I think was intentional. It looked like Indian Springs on a tournament weekend after a foot of rain. US had a hard time connecting passes and getting out of their own way for the most part. Musah and McKennie were good. Pulisic looked off, he was OK but not the great he has been n Italy. Jedi was phenomenal. CBs were fine. Scally was a meh. US really struggled at the 6 and 8. Cardoso and Tessman were not good and Cardoso left after only 15 minutes and Malik Tillman came in for him.

Turner made 2 stops that should have found their way onto SPortscenter's top 10 for the night. 1st one was on a PK. Good PK taken by the Jamaican but Turner made a ridiculous save. He had another one off a corner that might have ended in an Olympico if not for him. Jamaica was good at pressing the US in the MF and creating turnovers. Not a good thing when you consider Mexico is even better at that type of style. US probably should have made it 2-0 in the 1st half on a really nice build up play and break. I saw some really dynamic movement on this play. Whoever was shooting was sort of lazy about it and hit Andre Blake in the chest with it.

2nd leg next week (Tuesday I think).
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Fire him TOMORROW!

HuffyCane
You’d be surprised who reads this board and even occasionally posts on it. Community elected leaders, current and former administrators, current and former trustees, senior university staff and volunteers, boosters from $1 to over $1 million, current and former coaches, former players, even at least a couple of faculty with varying motivations and support for athletics. Most of them think we are all mentally ill fools.

The University is well aware of who most of us are and our views. Keep the communication classy and concise and occasional and you’ll be surprised at the supportive feedback you’ll get beyond normal lip service.

The University posts videos and podcasts here. They have had in the past paid monitors who regularly briefed administrators and I assume still do. If so, they have a tedious job I appreciate.

Flooding an email account or voice mail box won’t be productive. Have two dozen of your close friends send you emails you have to respond to the first thing on a Monday morning, see how long that takes you, how much time you have left in the day, and whether you are temporarily still as fond of them as you were on Saturday.

Also, be prepared to listen as well as speak. TU generally shares your goals, but not all of TU’s goals for the athletic department are going to be the same as yours. Do your best to understand the exchange of information and respect the differences in direction desired. The differences are often very subtle nuance but important.

Especially those goals whose aspirations are not resource based. The school really is concerned about things other than winning or what something costs, or keeping a hundred or so people employed. Things that were important long before money took over the sport.

Things like making sure the program is sustainable so kids with nothing have a chance to get an education. The most insulting thing is the discussion about dropping football or lowering divisions. That implies that TU would be willing to compromise its century old commitment to thousands of future students with few or no opportunities to be educated elsewhere. To do that to win a few games for a few years until the money ran out or save a little in the grand scheme of things is the height of foolishness. Dont be a fool and bring that up.

TU has never been OU, who has millions of back seat drivers. Demands or commands will be as welcome as listening to a 5 year old in your backseat demand McDonald’s instead of Chik-fil-A when you are already blocked in waiting in the drive through. Threats of pulling donations will be met with the same level of frustration but professional response.

Be nice. Be supportive. Listen.

Communicate a desire that those you aren’t able to contact directly are held accountable. Your message will get through, as many on here can testify from telephone calls and email exchanges with senior administrators.

I love TU sports, in part, because of its small community.

TU might be the only program in the nation where an average fan with no donor history can have an ongoing personal relationship with the athletic department personnel and even some coaches. Think twice before you abuse that privilege because it reflects on all of us.
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Fire him TOMORROW!

TU1NNJ
goldenhurricane2 said:
Seems kind of foolish if TU doesn’t have an athletic department person monitoring this forum regularly as it is a one stop shop to see opinions of some of TU’s my diehard fans, alumni, and supporters. So I’m hoping they check here more than occasionally.

I also think it’s fair for folks to post rants here if they want to - it’s a message board.

But I also agree that sending an email to Justin and Brad to voice opinions about the current situation is a good idea. The more they see/hear it, the better. However, with how active Brad is on Twitter, I’m sure he’s well aware of the general feelings of the TU faithful.

Wilson has alienated damn near everyone by being a major asshole in his short time here. So one doesn’t really have to look far to find valid criticisms of the football program and Wilson himself.
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People bit.. on message boards even when things are going well. People will continue doing that in bad times, like now, too. My point in the first comment is if you are only posting alone it has much less impact. If you are TU donor or supporter and want a change let the TU officials know.
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Fire him TOMORROW!

TU1NNJ
Are you guys that are bit..ing on the message board contacting Justin and Carson? If not quit wasting your time posting endless rants. The AD and administration need to understand the impact losing has on the health of not only athletics (football drives the financial bus for everything else) but also the university. General donations and enrollment will suffer if this doesn’t get fixed. While certain TU “officials” may lurk here occasionally the emails, phone calls and potential lack of continued donations/season tickets is what will get their attention. My interactions with the officials indicates that there are some complaints but not that many!
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📝 Larry Lewis Recap: Tulsa falls to ECU, 38-31

Chris Harmon
In a wild ride of almosts, Joseph Williams was a human highlight reel. But his breakout game for Tulsa was spoiled by several missed opportunities by inches. In the end, Tulsa’s final drive came up just short, as TU lost to East Carolina 38-31 on Thursday night in front of 17,979 fans at H.A. Chapman Stadium.

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Tulsa falls just short to East Carolina, 38-31

Too many missed opportunities spoiled an improved performance by Tulsa, as they fell at home to ECU, 38-31.
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📝 Larry Lewis Tulsa falls just short to ECU, 38-31

Chris Harmon
In a wild ride of almosts, Joseph Williams was a human highlight reel. But his breakout game for Tulsa was spoiled by several missed opportunities by inches. In the end, Tulsa’s final drive came up just short, as TU lost to East Carolina 38-31 on Thursday night in front of 17,979 fans at H.A. Chapman Stadium.

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Tulsa falls just short to East Carolina, 38-31

Too many missed opportunities spoiled an improved performance by Tulsa, as they fell at home to ECU, 38-31.
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EOH Podcast

HuffyCane
TulsaRulzOSUdrools said:
Rowing had money to burn. My girlfriend in college did not come to TU to row but some of her friends convinced her to go give it a shot and she got half tuition as a result.
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This. It’s even more lucrative in other sports for select players. For other players, their financial contribution will match their expected contribution if they didn’t play sports, and in a few cases, more than that. If you’ve got a million dollar house and your child isn’t a generational talent, you will be expected to pay a little. The Olympic sports aren’t upper middle class welfare. It’s one reason we don’t have men’s golf. Why should TU pay to educate kids who can pay themselves? They can change the roster limit rules. But I don’t see TU changing its philosophy.
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